Suitable fish for a 24"x12"x12"? Advice please?

As long as your substrate doesn't have any sharp edges the corys will do just fine. Just whatever you decide, make it smaller stuff that they can shift around a bit while looking for food.
 
Many thanks for the link - will be doing some phoning around tomorrow to find out about Endlers, they look neat!!

Plus I'll need to hit the lfs to get that replacement bulb - if 15W works, that'll do! Already sourcing some java moss ;)

At what stage would I add java moss or water wisteria (2 I've found readily available locally)? Do I need to wait until I've got my cycle complete?

And just to clarify stock numbers to start out with:

15 Gallon
Endlers/guppies x ??
Neon/Glowlight Tetras x??
Corys x 3-4?
Ramshorn snail x ?? (don't want these to become a problem, and is red ramshorne ok?

10 Gallon
Platies x ??
Another Ramshorn snail??

Again many MANY thanks!!

Started to get excited now!!

Stench update: so far my decomposing shrimpie is NOT smelling too bad, just as long as the hood and lid are kept firmly in place - water testing is not so much fun however. Glad I ain't doing this in summer.... :D

Cheers,

Chele & Baby Luke :)
 
Endlers are pretty unusual, so you may not find them at a local store, but maybe you could order them online from someone in NZ? Less shipping would be less stress on the fish.

Ramshorn snails are hermaphrodites. They are each both male and female, so one snail all by itself can have lots and lots of babies. How about an apple snail/mystery snail? These come in male and female, so if you only have one, no babies.
 
Thanks for the heads up on the Ramshorn!!! Will NOT be getting one of those for sure!

And you're dead right on the Endlers - I found a NZ site with a forum and someone was 'bragging' they had just imported 12 from ENGLAND!! Definitely not available locally - and I imagine the stress for them coming that far would not be too good! Guppies & Tetras it is :)

Stench update: Still not too bad, definitely a bit 'whiffy' if you get too close :)
 
Well, you could always ask now or save that person's e-mail or pm and in 6 months when his/her tank is full of baby Endler's, ask them if they'll sell you some! :)
 
You seem knowledgeable for a N00b! That's rare :)

A paradise gourami would work, plus some cories (maybe 5.) Cories aren't big, they grow 2''-3'' but they're bulky (they're bottom feeders.) And to top it off, 4 platies.
 
Thanks, Ilovebettas. :) I, um, research obsesively. I love the internet. World's biggest library right here in my house. I haven't even gotten my Endler's yet and I'm totally in love with them. Have been choosing tankmates very carefully because I consider it such an honor to have the chance to raise such a pretty fish that's so rare and may even be extinct in the wild.

I couldn't find you any Endler's in NZ, but I came across a guppy message board based in NZ but you have to join to read the posts. Some guppy owners have Endler's, too, because one can get some really cool crosses. They will interbreed. http://guppy.co.nz/index.php?name=FORUMS Maybe someone there would have some?
 
Many thanks for the link - will be doing some phoning around tomorrow to find out about Endlers, they look neat!!

Plus I'll need to hit the lfs to get that replacement bulb - if 15W works, that'll do! Already sourcing some java moss ;)

At what stage would I add java moss or water wisteria (2 I've found readily available locally)? Do I need to wait until I've got my cycle complete?

And just to clarify stock numbers to start out with:

15 Gallon
Endlers/guppies x ??
Neon/Glowlight Tetras x??
Corys x 3-4?
Ramshorn snail x ?? (don't want these to become a problem, and is red ramshorne ok?

10 Gallon
Platies x ??
Another Ramshorn snail??

Again many MANY thanks!!

Started to get excited now!!

Stench update: so far my decomposing shrimpie is NOT smelling too bad, just as long as the hood and lid are kept firmly in place - water testing is not so much fun however. Glad I ain't doing this in summer.... :D

Cheers,

Chele & Baby Luke :)


You can add the plants any time. The sooner the better actually. They can help with the cycle and even sometimes eliminate cycling.
 
Well, you could always ask now or save that person's e-mail or pm and in 6 months when his/her tank is full of baby Endler's, ask them if they'll sell you some! :)

*evil grin* Yeah. I got them bookmarked already!!

And thanks for that site recommendation - I did register and the only mention of Endlers was to ask if we had 'em here! Apparently we DO but they called 'guppies' - LOL :confused: :headshake2:

Basically the one person to answer that thread said that we have them, only not identified as Endlers - so it's going to take someone a LOT more experienced than me to spot 'em!!

I went down the the LFS today, and I am either amusing them or annoying the hell outta them, possibly both at the same time!! You don't find too many people doing a fishless cycle round these parts, and you can almost see the balloon appearing over their heads saying "bloody hippy"!! lol

I now have 18W light and some moss!! Also have at least two tiny hitchhikers which has taken care of my snail dilemma assuming they can survive my ammonia (1 - 2ppm) and nitrite (through the roof!!) levels! Any advice on that one?

Also soaking a couple of chunks of driftwood in a bucket, water looking reasonably clear so should I go ahead and chuck 'em in the tank?

My 'corpse' is starting to disintegrate and get a lil ... errrr ... fuzzy?? Is it time for me to find a new 'victim' to replace? (One of my hitchhikers has made his home on a nice glunky bit!!) Also the water has gone fairly cloudy from 'floaties' escaping his pantyhose prison, tho has cleared a bit since I put in the moss/added the 10g hob filter as well. Anything else I should be doing?

Stench update: Not bad at all... Not terriffic, but definitely not bad!! Maybe having a really large living room is helping, or my sense of smell has left the building, but I really don't notice it unless I'm going in there for some reason! If/when this works I will definitely recommend the dead shrimpie!!

As always, many thanks to those who have taken the time to read this thread, and special thanks to those who have given me such excellent advice!!

Chele & Baby Luke :)
 
Guppies and Endler's are either separate species but closely related or Endler's may be a type of guppy. Since the hybrids are either infertile or have a reduced fertility rate, I think they are separate species. If you watch the feeder fish tanks at pet stores, you may spot a part-Endler guppy hybrid.

Sorry, don't know about the cycling with a shrimp, but sounds like progress is being made!
 
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