ok, thanks for the quick reply, i dont have any epoxy right now but can get some very soon, so il use the super glue now and get some epoxy as soon as i can for when the super glue fails, itl be after christmas now but at least the rattling will be helped until then. its mainly our bedroom tank, laying their trying to sleep, and the constant nagging rattle from the fish tank at the end of the bed, OH not amused! the other rattley filter is in the living room with 2 other tanks so the air intakes somewhat over shadow the rattling in there, but il do both, as the filter flow seems to be somewhat reduced by that dinky teeny little plastic disk not being attatched. who would have thought such a small thing could make such a difference!