system for my car.

Don't forget to compare apples to apples. Most head units are rated in max power rather than RMS. An amplifiers output can also be affected by the preamp output voltage on the head unit.
 
tekonus said:
Those speakers don't look bad... but why bother with that amp? If its only going to put out 50w per speaker why not just use the built in amp in your average 200w head unit. Same output, and probably won't sound much different if you get a decent unit.
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people on this fourm crack me up

those pheonix speakers are garbage

and just so u kno when your head unit says 50watts x 4 it doesnt mean it puts out 50 watts rms how many times can i say it READ THE FINE PRINT.

if your gonna buy a headunit by an alpine and call it a day.

i really wish when people gave advice they would actually point someone in the right direction instead of feeding him crap

i wanna see u turn my radio all the way up without the amp and hear how distorted that S*** is then i wanna see u turn my amp on and turn the radio all the way up and hear what a difference it is.
 
Rallysman said:
Don't forget to compare apples to apples. Most head units are rated in max power rather than RMS. An amplifiers output can also be affected by the preamp output voltage on the head unit.
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thank u good point buy and alpine 4v preamp out
 
I've always been a fan of alpine and JL. There are a ton of good brands and some that fly low and aren't really noticed very often. I've had awesome luck with MA audio amps in the past. I've never tried their speakers (stuck with JL) but their amps really did surprise me.

When it comes to any system, try to go inexpensive but don't go cheap. The system is only as good as it's worst component.
 
l3lhsl3 said:
people on this fourm crack me up

those pheonix speakers are garbage

and just so u kno when your head unit says 50watts x 4 it doesnt mean it puts out 50 watts rms how many times can i say it READ THE FINE PRINT.

if your gonna buy a headunit by an alpine and call it a day.

i really wish when people gave advice they would actually point someone in the right direction instead of feeding him crap

i wanna see u turn my radio all the way up without the amp and hear how distorted that S*** is then i wanna see u turn my amp on and turn the radio all the way up and hear what a difference it is.
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Yes I hear what you are saying. I think it is you who needs to read better, however. This stereo is going in an '88 Taurus and he is trying to spend as little as possible.... If he can get away sounding decent without an amp to his door speakers that saves him money. I have no amp to my 4 door speakers in my car and an 8 yr old 220w (not rms obviously) Blaupunkt deck leftover from my first car with cheap-o 4 way pioneers in the front, and 3 ways in the back that max out at ~120w each (again, not rms). Once I tuned the internal equalizer settings in the head unit to the way I liked them I can crank it up to the point of my ears hurting and it still sounds clear. Again, I'm not one of those guys who drives around with my stereo cranked at max all the time just trying to draw attention. I just prefer something that sounds good at reasonable listening levels.

Also, you can't really knock people for giving half-arsed stereo advice from personal experience on a forum mainly about aquariums... We aren't all professionals and are trying to help the best we can. I'd personally rather half a dozen people who kinda know what they are talking about respond to a question so I can use my judgment to extract useful advice... opposed to one guy who swears he knows whats best be the only one to respond and have to trust it on a whim.
 
tekonus said:
Yes I hear what you are saying. I think it is you who needs to read better, however. This stereo is going in an '88 Taurus and he is trying to spend as little as possible.... If he can get away sounding decent without an amp to his door speakers that saves him money. I have no amp to my 4 door speakers in my car and an 8 yr old 220w (not rms obviously) Blaupunkt deck leftover from my first car with cheap-o 4 way pioneers in the front, and 3 ways in the back that max out at ~120w each (again, not rms). Once I tuned the internal equalizer settings in the head unit to the way I liked them I can crank it up to the point of my ears hurting and it still sounds clear. Again, I'm not one of those guys who drives around with my stereo cranked at max all the time just trying to draw attention. I just prefer something that sounds good at reasonable listening levels.

Also, you can't really knock people for giving half-arsed stereo advice from personal experience on a forum mainly about aquariums... We aren't all professionals and are trying to help the best we can. I'd personally rather half a dozen people who kinda know what they are talking about respond to a question so I can use my judgment to extract useful advice... opposed to one guy who swears he knows whats best be the only one to respond and have to trust it on a whim.
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tekonus said:
Those speakers don't look bad... but why bother with that amp? If its only going to put out 50w per speaker why not just use the built in amp in your average 200w head unit. Same output, and probably won't sound much different if you get a decent unit.
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i did read and u said the same output ? the 17 watts rms that your head unit puts out isnt the same as a 50watt rms amplifier.
im sure u can make it sound good but it will never sound better then having an amp hooked up to it.

the kid said he had 200$ why would u buy come crappy speakers for 60$ when you know there not a good brand at all?

who cares if its a 88 Taurus? does it really matter what this is going into?
 
Rallysman said:
I've always been a fan of alpine and JL. There are a ton of good brands and some that fly low and aren't really noticed very often. I've had awesome luck with MA audio amps in the past. I've never tried their speakers (stuck with JL) but their amps really did surprise me.

When it comes to any system, try to go inexpensive but don't go cheap. The system is only as good as it's worst component.
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yea i had an old MA audio it was silver put out 1100rms and 1 ohm good stuff cought me by surprise to.


JL audio makes some kicka** stuff man the W7 is a beast the screw holes are under the foam surround and u have to take the ring off its sweet.


im currently in the works of adding on to my system ima be going with 4 kicker CVX 12"s 2 hifonics 1200rms amps

all in a ext cab ranger :p:
 
l3lhsl3 said:
yea i had an old MA audio it was silver put out 1100rms and 1 ohm good stuff cought me by surprise to.


JL audio makes some kicka** stuff man the W7 is a beast the screw holes are under the foam surround and u have to take the ring off its sweet.


im currently in the works of adding on to my system ima be going with 4 kicker CVX 12"s 2 hifonics 1200rms amps

all in a ext cab ranger :p:
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The biggest surprise amp I ever had was a planet audio monoblock. 1200w RMS @ 1ohm and really didn't even get very warm. It took a few battaries, capacitors, and an upgraded alternator to keep up, but it was a solid amp. I think my favorite "bang for the buck" sub is the JL W3V2-D4 (as long as you have a 1 ohm stable amp). Slap one or two of those in a nice sealed enclosure and it's a very nice tight sub that can hit pretty deep.
 
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