Teacher sends boy, 5, home with bag of poo

caitylee said:
A friend of mine has a child that would have bm's in her pants when she was 6. Her mother was abusive and a drug addict. The father (who is my friend) has custody now and he took her to the doctor. They found out she had a blocked bowel and that was what her problem was.

There are many sides to this story that we just don't know. The only thing I feel was handled wrong is; the poo should have never been sent home with the child.
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absolutely. . .

I can't even believe this is under debate. Whatever the situation, you don't stuff a bag of poo in a 5 year old's backpack with such a note on it.

I like to believe that there are three sides to a story. 1 side, the other, and the truth.
 
all too often we hear about the bad thing the teacher did.

I can empathize with the teacher...having sat thru numerous classes when my daughter was growing up and seeing parents that feel it is the teachers job to teach things that the parents should be teaching.

I have seen many times where the teacher was blamed for not raising the child for the parents.(well the teacher didn't teach them that-potty training is only one topic of concern)



Time will tell.

as mentioned we are only hearing one side of the story. the jury is still out on this one. we need all the facts.
 
i still bet the teacher didnt do it.

kids will say/do anything and the teacher will always become the person who did something wrong.

yesterday a friend of mine was accused of 'swearing at a child during class' this one student is going on and on and on about how my friend was swearing at her. the other 23 kids sitting in the same class at the same time said it never happened.
 
not sure but then again when the school board gets involved the teacher would be informed to not speak openly about the matter.

we really should wait for the report.

once that is out, the parents (if they feel the need) can take the matter to civil court.
 
While the action was inappropriate, I can understand how the teacher might have felt frustrated. The child had accidents in her classroom on at least two other occassions and she had communicated with the child's parents regarding this. (The KOMO article out of Seattle doesn't mention this).

In any case the school and the parents met Wednesday night. The child has been moved to another classroom and the 30 year veteran teacher has been disciplined. The school refuses to comment of the form of discipline, but, as the child's parents are apparently satified (http://www.kapptv.com/news/?sect_rank=1&section_id=22&story_id=14657) it's really none of our business if the school wants to maintain confidentiality.
 
I actually agree with the teacher.

I dont think I would of sent the poo home. But there is no reason that a kid who doesn't even have the self control to hold his bodily functions in (besides farts) shouldn't be in school. What I dont get is how needy parents go "oh we need our child to learn" well why dont you teach him when and where to crap first?

Although there could be problems invloved, like autism, that is the parents responsibility of the parents.

If this teacher gets fired, then the pushy parents of society will when. Their lazy thats all. The only reason they want their "precious" to go to school is so it'll be outa there way and their free to do whatever. Thats why alot of kids go to school early, and why alot of parents refuse to pick up kids for any reason.

Shame on you Jason
 
One of the reasons I didn't continue my teaching career 15 years ago was that as a teacher it seemed like it was impossible to get the support of parents and administrators. I loved the face time with the kids but the politics was too much. Parents of kids getting As were complaining that they weren't A pluses. Administrators telling you to give the kids the A pluses to shut the parents up after all what's a plus sign anyway. Kids caught cheating and being let off the hook by the administrators because the parents would complain. Catching a kid cheating on a test while subbing and having the regular teacher ignore it because it wasn't worth the hassle. Parents comming in and disrupting classes and such with rantings to everyone about everything when their little precious is chastised for any little infraction. Teaching in an environment where you have to be afraid to hug a first grade student who fell and skinned his or her knee because their parents will likely charge you with sexual harassment. Having to take time out of your class time to make sure that your students have brushed their teeth because God forbid we expect parents to... well, to... to be parents. Bribing kids with Ipods to take the free breakfasts offered by the district just so the numbers will look better and the school will continue to get the grant money. (these last two didn't happen when I was teaching but were recent occurances in a district close to me)

I learned a few things in the couple of short years I was a teacher. One is that there are a lot of teachers who you could pay a million dollars a year and it wouldn't be enough compensation for what they do. I'm talking more so about good teachers who truly care about the kids, and not so much those teaching under severely adverse conditions like drugs and guns etc, although some of them would deserve 10 times that much. The second is that there are those that you could pay a hundred dollars a year and they would be severely overcompensated.

I'm not a parent so in a lot of ways I wouldn't understand but in most instances of school discipline I would side with the teacher (depending on the circumstances of course) However, in this case, even if all the things Dean says happened to be true this was not the way to handle it.
 
Steve, my gf's mom is a lunch lady and she tells me these stories every day, almost. Especially in today's generation, it seems as though kids get away with anything and everything, and when/if teachers face the students' parents, most of the time the parent sides with the student and not the administration.

I don't deny that this is happening. it's sad...

All I'm saying is, (and I don't think it's unreasonable), when something like this happens, she could have handled it in so many different ways, none of which include bagging human crap and putting it in the kid's schoolbag with a smirky note in it.
 
As a teacher and a parent I believe that what she did was absolutely wrong. First, she didn't know who it even belonged to - maybe it wasn't this particular child. Second, even if it was him he is only 5 years old! The reality is that 5 y/o still sometimes have accidents, especially if there's something particularly stressful or so interesting that they don't feel the urge until it's too late. Also, this being seemingly the first time this happened warrants a discussion with parents, not the reaction she had.

I suspect that part of the issue is her own burn which led to poor judgment. There is no doubt that very often teachers DO NOT get the support from parents that they should and that they are often raising the children instead of the parents. I am glad I teach college, but I wouldn't even put feces in one of my college student's bag if I witnessed him crapping on my floor, and certainly this should not happen to a 5 y/o.
 
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