The Aquarium Cleaning Machine
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not neccessary 1. for that price it better check my water parameters too. oh yeah, and feed my fish while i'm away. lol 
echoofformless
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CaitxSith said:
Not the same thing at all. A biowheel is a type of wet/dry biological filter.
This product is a mechanical filter.
this product uses a siphon to get the gravel clean like a python it puts the water down the drain. using an input it detoxifies and prefilters all water before it replaces it.
it is a combination between the python and one of the tap water prefilters they sell at petco
it is a combination between the python and one of the tap water prefilters they sell at petco
I beleive the product uses micron filters which probably would reduce the TDS ,..it also utilizes a diatom type system..polishing the water.probably good to use in between water changes in a heavily stocked tank.
apparently there are professional systems similar..but would ya believe it if I told ya most professional tank maint includes a water change regime... :Angel:
part of it is hype..i'd be curious to see how it rates amongst the professional tank keepers with large tank..I read someone is actually using a refugium type system that for thier 1000 gallon tanks(the refugium is nearly as large and utilizes deep sandbeds and live plants.) I'm waiting to see how that turns out.
apparently there are professional systems similar..but would ya believe it if I told ya most professional tank maint includes a water change regime... :Angel:
part of it is hype..i'd be curious to see how it rates amongst the professional tank keepers with large tank..I read someone is actually using a refugium type system that for thier 1000 gallon tanks(the refugium is nearly as large and utilizes deep sandbeds and live plants.) I'm waiting to see how that turns out.
cstrohmeyer
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I just recently joined this forum after reading this thread while surfing the internet for "aquarium cleaning".
I was rather taken aback by the answers to this question as it is obvious that knowone really has used this machine nor bothered to research what some aquarium professionals think of it either (sorry to sound insulting, however I am really bugged by anecdotal information).
This machine is popular with aquarium service professionals (which is how I found out about it) where products that do not work are quickly discarded.
With this machine you can change out only 25% of the water (so a to not cause osmotic shock due to large water changes) and the CONTINUE to vacuum the tanks removing as much organic mulm form the tank as possible that otherwise lead to high DOC and poor Redox. This mulm is removed simply by cleaning the micron filter when finished (unlike a standard filter that is run continuously).
Also, as to the micron cartridge, I have rinsed these over 25 times in a bleach/water solution and then reused the cartridges (which keeps this end of the operation relatively inexpensive.
Considering I have built my own Python style gravel vacuums for my aquarium maintenance business long before these overpriced Pythons became popular, I can state emphatically that these Cleaning Machine go well beyond the Pythons in what they can do (realistically comparing the tow is like apples to oranges)
For a small FW aquarium I would say save your money, however for a tank over 60 gallons or for multiple aquariums or especially for marine aquariums these machines really pay for themselves.
I was rather taken aback by the answers to this question as it is obvious that knowone really has used this machine nor bothered to research what some aquarium professionals think of it either (sorry to sound insulting, however I am really bugged by anecdotal information).
This machine is popular with aquarium service professionals (which is how I found out about it) where products that do not work are quickly discarded.
With this machine you can change out only 25% of the water (so a to not cause osmotic shock due to large water changes) and the CONTINUE to vacuum the tanks removing as much organic mulm form the tank as possible that otherwise lead to high DOC and poor Redox. This mulm is removed simply by cleaning the micron filter when finished (unlike a standard filter that is run continuously).
Also, as to the micron cartridge, I have rinsed these over 25 times in a bleach/water solution and then reused the cartridges (which keeps this end of the operation relatively inexpensive.
Considering I have built my own Python style gravel vacuums for my aquarium maintenance business long before these overpriced Pythons became popular, I can state emphatically that these Cleaning Machine go well beyond the Pythons in what they can do (realistically comparing the tow is like apples to oranges)
For a small FW aquarium I would say save your money, however for a tank over 60 gallons or for multiple aquariums or especially for marine aquariums these machines really pay for themselves.
I'm not sure I get it...looks like a gravel vac attached to a canister filter, so instead of draining the water it gets pumped back into the tank? so you still have to do water changes separately?
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