The tank that won't cycle

do a pcwc and take readings..it does take a bit of time for the bacteria to catch up to the waste.

heck do a ammonia test now to see if anything is happening. when the bacteria kick in it is a matter of hours and you can see results.(12-24 hrs may make a difference)
 
I'd just tested when I posted this thread, and that's when nothing was showing up. I'll test again before bedtime, which will come after a PWC. It is encouraging to read that they may still kick in quickly. After doing this and getting 0 nitrites for almost a month now, one does start to wonder if something is wrong and it will never ever cycle. :)
 
Hey Kimmisc. It is possible that the biospira you got was dead. The bacteria need to be kept refrigerated the entire time that they're in the package. Just because it got to you cold, doesn't mean that it was kept that way all the way up until the point it got to whatever location it was shipped from. If it came out of the package as a brownish liquid, it was most likely dead.

Look around this site and you'll see a lot of people who have had no luck with biospira (myself included). The stuff is expensive and it's literally a crapshoot as to whether or not it will work.

For your situation, keep doing PWC's daily, if needed. Try to get a hold of some filter squeezings if you can. You can risk some from your LFS (Just ask them for a bag full of fresh squeezed filter juice) or, a much safer alternative, ask a friend or relative for some of their filter media (assuming someone you know has a tank). If you can get the stuff, add it directly to the filter.

If you can't get a hold of some filter squeezings/used media, just sit tight. Keep doing the PWC's and in a week or two, you should start seeing some results.

Or, depending on your lighting, you could add some easy to grow plants. This might be a good alternative for you since the plants will most likely have the bacteria you need growing on their leaves. Plus, they'll eat up some of the ammonia for you. Like I said, it all depends on your lighting. Good luck.
 
The color of the bio-spira when I poured it in was cloudy white.

If something doesn't happen in the next couple weeks, I may end up driving to my mom's for some filter squeezing. My LFS wouldn't give me any when I asked.
 
Since you're looking at taking squeezings from your mom's tank, why not take some of the actual filter media? What kind of filter does she use and what kind do you use? If it's doable (meaning that your filter has at least some space where you can put a chunk of used media) just ask her for a used filter cartridge or some filter floss. This would be better than squeezings (which will still work) because you'll get a larger, more established colony that is stuck to something that you can keep in the filter, where it's needed the most. Like I said, squeezings will work okay. A hunk of old media or a used cartridge will be better.
 
The replaceble cartridge with the carbon in it? Hmmm, gonna call her and see when she's due to change her filter next. :) I think we have the same size filters too.
 
I don't think short term high dose or long term low dose is acceptable.

You are doing a fishy cycle. Perform water changes when ever you have indicated ammonia or nitrites. Test kits are only so accurate and even if they read zero, there is still some available for bacteria development.

I wouldn't waste any more money on bio spira, you shouldn't put much else in that tank anyways.
 
While your tank is cycling, dose with Seachem's Prime - this will detox the Ammonia and the Nitrites while leaving them available to feed your developing bacteria culture and your plants.
 
Just updating while doing a dance.... I finally got some nitrites showing up!! :dance2: Tested tonight, ammonia got up to almost 1ppm, nitrites are between 0-0.25ppm. Only a small bit but a sign of progress... FINALLY! So it took bio-spira 4 days to settle in and start doing it's thing.
 
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