There all dead omg

I wonder where your spring water is coming from and if there is any possibility if it having gotten contaminated...recent chemical spill in the area? Flooding? That can move ground chemical contamination. Do you live near any big livestock farms? Chemical plants?
All water out of the ground be it well or spring is subject to whatever leaches into it from neighboring soil. (Hmm..sounds like all water..period..that's right) :soda:
 
My 1st thought was a spike caused by the moving arround of fish, but at 155 gallons I don't think thats it. Michelle's idea to test your tap water is a good one. You could try calling the water company to find out if there has been any changes or problems recently. I'm really sorry for your loss, I know how much you love those guys:( You inspired me to rescue one of these things from petsmart. It was getting beat up in a cichlid tank there. How do you sex these tyhings neway?
 
If you have a spring or well that is not a public water supply, you should be able to go to your local county health department and take a sample in for water testing. Here in Illinois you could anyway.
Of even find a private lab to do it.
If there are bad thengs in there that killed your fish and you are drinking the same water...it may not be good for you either! :eek:
 
BGK, I really mourn your loss, if it happened to me I would be devastated, like knocked out! I know how much you loved your knifefish, it was more like a dog than a fish to you.

But I also gotta say that I agree with Slappy:
Slappy*McFish said:
Holy run-on sentence, batman
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As an old fart, I found it hard to read your post. I had to read it twice and double check with what other people responded to get the gist.

Think hard buddy, is there anything that was different between last week and this week? Exactly what was the day that you added the most recent fish?
 
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id say it was 3 -5 days before the first death that a fish died the day the first fish died the molly was switched due too the fact a guppy was about too give birth. no i have never been able too change my patterns of water changes and what not its always the same in my BGK tank they really due notice anything out of the ordanary and wont nest


now i can't rember who ask but how ive managed too get them too lay eggs isn't too hard but takes alot of love and care lol ive still never managed too get a male to go even near them yet though but ill tell you what i know the BGK ive found breads almost the same as a Zebra pleco there is a verry detailed forum on waterwolfs the only problem is the males dont seem too like fighting the curent i still have one male in a 10 but hes only 4 or 5 inches no where near breeding he was in there bye himself hopefully too grow fast enof too catch up too the smaller female that was 7 inches they where gona tank mate up in a 30 till they got tooo 9 inchest a pop rember lots of live plants and caves TONS. i found that if you have a ornament that is tallenof and big enof the kinda stop all curent in one cornor of the tank they will lay eggs sometimes in the floating plants there only happened twice and the male betta had a feast lol i have a huge church in my tank the females would actually sleep together in it anyway now too the details they loke soft water freash water LOTS off extra food they love too come out and eat off the bottem thats the only way you can keep more then one BGK in a tank they need too establish a chain off domanice usally Largest male largest female are first then the outher males then the females. females are less agressive and will sleep together but when there bye themselfs during there ME time in there own cave bye the way make sure how ever make BGK's you have they all have an about same size LARGE cave to call there own orelse they get horably stressed. when they llay eggs its in a cave wih the curent right in frount .you have to simulate the rainy season bye adding COLD water right outa the tap cold as it will come out at about 10-15% every day for a week then stop for 3 weeks do it again. thats just how too get the females too do there job have yet too be able to make my males feel frisky mabe males need too be larger females lay eggs around 9-12 inches only one of mine i know forsure layed eggs at 9 1\2 inches but it may have been possable for the 7 too too only been working at it about a year.
 
BGK, I like you and I really want to help, but please, rewrite that with periods, commas and Caps, otherwise I can't follow the thread of what you are saying. I don't say this to be a*** retentetive, but in plea to understand you better.

All that aside, you have to get to the bottom of this before you start again, to avoid any further disasters. If you got BGK fish to breed, you're really doing something right, and you should carry on.
 
Whew....
I cleaned up his last post as good as I could. I don't think that I horribly skewed any of the very good info that BGK posted. If I did, please let me know!
Now I know how my English teacher felt in school! :thud:


BGK's Cleaned Up Post!

I’d say it was 3 -5 days before the first death that a fish died. The day the first fish died, the molly was switched due too the fact that a guppy was about to give birth. No, I have never been able to change my patterns of water changes, and while it’s not always the same in my BGK tank they really do notice anything out of the ordinary and wont nest.


Now, I can't remember who asked, but how I’ve managed to get them to lay eggs isn't to hard, but takes a lot of love and care. Lol I’ve still never managed to get a male to go even near them yet, but I’ll tell you what I know. The BGK I’ve found breeds almost the same as a Zebra pleco. There is a very detailed forum on waterwolfs. The only problem is the males don’t seem too like fighting the current. I still have one male in a 10, but he’s only 4 or 5 inches. No where near breeding size. He was in there by himself, hopefully to grow fast enough to catch up to the smaller female that was 7 inches. They where going tank mate up in a 30 till they got to 9 inches each. Remember, lots of live plants and TONS of caves. I found that if you have a ornament that is tall enough and big enough that stops all the current in one corner of the tank, they will lay eggs, sometimes, in the floating plants there. Only happened twice, and the male Betta had a feast. lol I have a huge church in my tank, and the females would actually sleep together in it. Anyway, now too the details: they like soft water, fresh water, and LOTS off extra food. They love to come out and eat off the bottom. That’s the only way you can keep more then one BGK in a tank. They need too establish a chain off dominance. Usually, the largest male, and largest female are first. Then the other males, and then the females. Females are less aggressive and will sleep together. But, when there by themselves during there ME time, they’re in there own cave. By the way, make sure how ever many BGK's you have, they all have an about same size LARGE cave to call there own, or else they get horribly stressed. When they lay eggs it’s in a cave with the current right in front. You have to simulate the rainy season by adding COLD water right out of the tap (cold as it will come out) at about 10-15% every day for a week. Then stop for 3 weeks, and do it again. That’s just how to get the females to do there job. I have yet to be able to make my males feel frisky. Maybe males need to be larger. Females lay eggs around 9-12 inches. Only one of mine I know for sure laid eggs at 9 1\2 inches, but it may have been possible for the 7” to. Only been working at it about a year.

P.S.
BGK, I am not trying to make fun of you in any way, shape, or form. I used to be horrible with English(and it is my native language). I am meerly trying to help. Please try to make your future posts more understandable, so that we will be able to help more efficiently.

Great Info BTW!
 
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jason thank you soo much im sorry but I broke my right pinky about 9 times for alot of reasons it just doesn't bend right too the period. it hurts alot too do so sorry ill try to slow down and make it easyer to read. bye the way jason you cleaned it up perfectly. i see no bits off info that were turned around

Just for everyone who raises BGK's. I know you have all read how diffucult these can be too feed more varity in there diet the happyer heather and more active they will become. here some feeding hints. Almost all BGK's will eat meaty foods unless they are verry small i would not recomend ANYONE who has not delt with a 4 inch + BGK too deal with anyhting smaller they will be verry difficult too feed now what i did was every day for each Pair off BGK's they got a pack off frozen bloodworms and half a frozen bril shrimp. now the tricky part Most BGK's will not naturally eat flakes but it is good for them verry good its like there dailly vitaman.heres how you do it when you do this you must continue too do it they do not like change you must make it as nomal as possable. the trick is too get them too relized there are outher good foods besides meat i found a peice off a veggy i use a 2 inch long 1 inch wide piece off zuichinni will last them (in a grouping of 1 male 2 females) 2 - 3 days they will eat every last bit peal and all.just hook it too a paper clip and hang it from a building keep it near a plant the BGK will lay on the plant and be lazy and just eat away untill someone with a higher chain off domanice comes along for there turn. however long it takes them too eat it give them that many days too digest it rember iff you have outher black water river fish they will all eat it too keep that in mind when you cut your peices and the amount of time it takes too finish it. now after there done there first piece do the process as i told you but the second time add flakes twice a day and they will eat the extra off the bottom as they get hungry. that my trice too feeding they get frozen meat,veggys,and fakes. and I once a month each one gets too go on the hunt in my baby live bearertank trust me they may be blind but they still and always will love the hunt.

one thing i left out off my last post. i left out the LIGHTING this is EXTREAMLY important if you want too keep more then one in a tank witch is vital for the female's too remain unstressed enof too lay there eggs NEVER turn out the lights i know you think this will hurt your fish but hear me out i have a regular light bulb that says on 10 hours a day usally when im asleep. then for the rest off the day im not sure what works best but i have my 10Gallon with a black light for my little male but my big tank was rigged with actinic BLUE lighting its dark enof that it doesn't affect there eyes in a painfull way and its bright enof too keep there playfullness at a controled level. if you turn the lights out all the way its like fireing the police dept in downtown newyork. I don't know if you guys have read my outher posts before this but BGK's are like teens drunk they LOVE too fight with oneanouther like siblings its harmless for the most part becarefull there is no Dramatic size differance ive seen a large BGK get a little one traped in a cave and the little one took one hell a beating. the things too keep in mind when observeing your BGK's together watch for keep fish off the same personality together 2 verry agressive ones will just play fight alot more but put one that is verry submisive in there with them they will see him as the weakest link. these fish are blind so 99 times out off a 100 there little fight never become more then sibling rivelry. agressive BGK's will always be trying too move up in chain off domanace. let them bicker they love it and its usally just over food.
they like too play together. it is a good idea too get stress coat with aloe because they do when fighting tear ejouther's fins a little not much. think off it as your kid geting a bruise playing football in the neijborhood. gota get them a band aid. when you see the BGK's raming a fish in its body with there head i mean right for the centre off there boddy that is agression. and they will be agressive to there best friend even me with food in my hand if they find someone in THERE cave rember they each will claim a cave of there own and females will claim a second too sleep in together as groups. they may be blind but i assure you they know there way around just as well as you or I there just too lazy sometimes too turn ive seen one swim backwords 60" into his cave on the outher side off the tank straght shot my 8 inch male would always do that 9 times outa 10 youll just see them chaseing ejouthers tails. thats them playing. never ever introduce a BGK's too a tank of BGK that have already been in there they will never acept them as tank mate's if you lose one give them all there own little 10G for a week or so mabe a little more buy a new one and introduce them back too the main tank all together. they will Beat ejouther horably for the first month or so too determain chain off domanace (lots off stress coat,lots off food and less dark lighting) if one in this time ever has more then 50% of his bottom fin cut up you need too put him in a tank off his own his personality or size just is not a match for the outher BGK in that tank you have got too watch them really closely in the first month too find compateable tank mates for them

I was verry lucky my LFS owner and I have an agreement due too the fact that before this incadent my fish where never sick and verry healthy so he would let me tank home a differant BGK when ever i needed too trade due too personality\agressiontry too find a store that you can find some kind off agreement too do this outherwise your going too need ALOT off tanks.


I hope i did a little better this time everyone made it a little easyer too read. this is alot off info for you guys too take in but if any off you decide too try too raise these in group you have got too get too know your fish verry well.
Now i think ive mentiond just about everything aboput raiseing these in these last 3 or 4 large posts. Once again thank you Jason for fixing my last one hope this one is better. Any questions any off you have about my experance in raiseing these guys i will be more then happy too answer

PS: with the 155 i am doing daily massive water changes and hooked up anouther 70 gallon bio weel filter too it too hopefull get the toxins out if that is what indeed did this i have 3 theorys Toxins,ICK or a hedgehiker on one off my live plants or some kinda parasite soo im just going too clean it as best I can without restarting it buy a dozen 10 cent gold fish through them in there if they live i know someone delibertly put a toxen in there if they die i know its some parsite and ill have too start the tank all over again so far ive cycled 200 gallons in and out off that tank with water changes anouther 300 and ill add in new gold fish 40% - 50% every day no fish in it just geting the toxins out.
 
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