THinking of starting Discus

No, you would be best served with 5 in that tank. Discus do not do well individually, nor do they do well in small numbers. (the only exception is breeding pairs, but I don't believe this thread intended to cover that) I would say 4 is an absolute minimum, but I wouldn't risk it myself. (been there, done that... didn't work well at all. I have 6 in a 55g tank)

Not sure if you folks have done much reading about discus yet, but there is a lot of work involved. (something like a minimum of two 50% water changes week, plus a very high protein meaty diet, feeding 2-3x daily) I tend to keep my tank in the 85-86 F range myself.

Thank you for the reply. I'm sorry i didn't mean to hijack this thread. I see u have 6 discus in 55 gallons. Isn't it overcrowded? I 've been into this hobby for almost 10 years and never kept a disucs before. People scared me with requirements of discus. Your tank give me a basic idea of discus tank setup. Are u going with 6 discus in that 55 for long run or are you going to change tanks once they get into adults?
 
Thank you for the reply. I'm sorry i didn't mean to hijack this thread. I see u have 6 discus in 55 gallons. Isn't it overcrowded? I've been into this hobby for almost 10 years and never kept a disucs before. People scared me with requirements of discus. Your tank give me a basic idea of discus tank setup. Are u going with 6 discus in that 55 for long run or are you going to change tanks once they get into adults?


6 in a 55 is doable, but its a little more work than keeping 5. They are still juveniles, around 4" each, and my initial plan was to keep them in there for the long haul. (they're relatively docile fish, unless startled) I've recently changed my mind, and will likely be converting my 55 to a low maintenance reef tank in the next few months. (dependent on finances) If I had the room (and permission, as I still live with my folks) I'd have the 6 of them in a 75g tank, possibly with another 1-2 to really liven up their interactions.

Discus truly are wonderful creatures, and believe me, I love my fish, but they are a lot of work as well. My old water change schedule was 3x 50-75% weekly water changes... lately its been suffering at 1-2 50% weekly changes. (I've been ill for the last couple of weeks, but work/school/etc. had me pretty busy as well) With the prospect of a single 25% water change a month and topping up every couple days on RO water, a low maintenance reef sounds like a more suitable option for me at present, though it certainly won't be cheap to get started.

Like I mentioned, discus do need a very high protein diet, which must be varied. I feed mine a combination of mysis shrimp, krill, plankton, blood worms, beef heart, brine shrimp, 2 kinds of flake food, 2 kinds of sinking pellets, and occasionally small pieces of store-bought shrimp. Their diet is part of why they require such tremendous water changes. A sand bed tends to be easier for me than a gravel bed would be, since most excess food and waste sits atop the sand, and is easily siphoned off. With gravel, its easy for food and or waste particles to sink down into the substrate and begin to rot, producing excessive ammonia.

A number of people will suggest a bare-bottom tank, and for what its worth, that really is ideal. It is easiest to keep clean and keeps a maximum volume of water in the tank, but it doesn't have a very nice aesthetic appearance, and is not required. Live plants in a discus tank won't necessarily be the easiest to handle either, given the volume of water changes, but it certainly is doable. I typically select low-maintenance plants, and keep them under really good light.

To answer another question which was brought up, a single 350gph filter will not suffice for a 50-55g discus tank. (unless of course this was a 20g sump with a 350gph return pump... but I know that's not the case) I'd recommend having two filters, partially for added filtration media, partially for redundancy in case one fails. (gives you a better chance of catching it before it becomes disasterous) It would be recommended to keep two heaters in the tank as well, each set to the same temp, also as a means of redundancy just in case, but I myself keep a single heater.

I'll see if I can't find a few of the threads I started along my journey, and post them on here for your reference. :)
 
you may find a low maint reef isn't all that low maint,
and 25% per month with top off of ro??

pretty normal with reef to do 10% per week. and you need to watch phosphates, and nitrate levels. you will also need a really good skimmer and good lights.

I ran a softie reef and was great for 2 years ..something changed and my tank crashed wiping out my softies.

I am currently rebuilding.. lucky for me the fish and rock survived.
tho I have to re inhabit the invert clean up crew.

I do 2 50% water changes with my adult discus and find that just as easy my tank (discus)BTW is planted.
 
The cost potential of building a reef tank is what is deterring me presently. I may be misunderstanding some of the basic concepts of keeping the tank as well, so who knows, perhaps it would turn out to be much more maintenance than I expect. I was planning on keeping soft corals, perhaps ultimately a couple LPS corals, a few small inverts, and eventually a Tridacna clam.

The more I think about the cost of setup (I'm looking at $600ish just on the lighting) the more I think I might be happier with something simple like a school of tetras or barbs. Its funny that I could never truly appreciate them as a teenager... now I'm quite fascinated by them. Just pondering all of the possibilities drives me nuts. I swear, if my folks weren't against setting up multiple tanks in the house, I'd have a BAD case of MTS. -_-
 
lol

lights are an issue. also with lps sps you may need to look into calcium additives.

hang in there
 
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