this is crazy, Ick is winning...could I do this?

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Hello. Well as you can see from below ick has almost decimated my tank after only a week, another dead platy this morning. A few sad looking fish left and well I am feeling defeated :sad . My question is could I transport and would it be a good Idea to move the remaning fish to the q tank and shock my big tank. I am so scared that ick would never be out of my big tank forever and I would hate to add a nice heathy fish and Ick was lurking. I was going to wait until the 2-3 weeks treatment is up and then do the q tank suggestion. So is this a good idea? I just thought that the 10g is easier to treat and maintain is trouble should arise again. Or should I switch them now, but then I would have to stop treatment because of the shrimp and snail. Probably better to water. Anyway and info and suggestions on that would be great. Thanks alot everyone.
 
The shrimp and snail can't contract ich, so it doesn't matter which tank you put them in. I had no trouble with either one living through the salt treatment so it shouldn't be a problem to put them back in the main tank. But get some other opinions on the shrimp at least.
I'd put the fish in the smaller tank to finish treatment, without fish in the bigger tank the ich cannot survive so within a couple of weeks (3 on the outside) there will be no more ich in the main tank. The fish in the q tank can be cured completely and then put back in the main tank and then you should be done with ich. Are you still seeing white spots (salt grains) on the fish, It may be something else such as secondary infections that are actually the problem now.
Dave
 
Well not so much the ick spots only a few dots and a few of the have bleached out looking spots on their back I have noticed. the molly had something wron with her swim bladder all of a sudden and I have no idea what else is lurking in there. The 10g isn't done cycling yet so will that strain then more? The shrimp doesn't care if I change the water 1 or 2 a day but will that stress the corys to much? thanks for you input dave :)
 
Assuming change water is close to the same as tank water, It won't stress the cories. If you are intend to move the fish to the 10g for treatment, move the filter with them. and put the 10 g filter on the other tank to cycle it. with the fish being in the smaller tank, the big tank should have more than enough bacteria in the gravel and so forth to keep the shrimp and snail happy, and the big filter going on the 10 should at least help immensly if not handle the entire bio-load of the treatment tank. If you plan to split the fish up between the two tnks you will have to re-think this suggfestion a bit.
dave
 
would there be ick on the bio wheel? So when I put it back on the big tank would it re introduce it after curing my fish? I was going to move everyone to the 10g and then drain the 55 g and let it sit, clean all the rocks and landscaping would that throw my tank off and I would have to re cycle?
 
What you have to look at is how ich lives and dies, It grows on your fish while feeding. This is the only stage of life where it can feed. It then falls off into the substrate and reproduces. Then it hatches and goes freeswimming looking for your fish. it cannot live long without a fish dinner so. You transfer fish and filter to the q-tank, the main tank the ich dies by default because there are no fish to eat. In the q-tank, you treat either with heat and salt or with heat and meds. I prefer salt it will do the job, but malechite and other meds do the job as long as the tank is reasonably clean, so it's your choice.
now once the q-tank has been treated and gone for 2-3 weeks with no sign of ich (don't forget flashing and gill scraping are signs) then there is no ich living in the q tank, and as said none in the main tank. No teardowns necessary. then transfer things back to the way you want them. there literally will be no ich living anywhere in your house at that point.

Now, if you are not looking at raised grains on your fish, you are probably only seeing the wound left by the ich. if there is no ich on your fish, the heat and salt should keep it from coming back to your fish. You will want to watch the wounds, some fish never show wounds, others can develope secondary bacterial or fungal infections. I haven't had to fight these yet, but there are a lot of products to deal with them, just try really hard to get an accurate diagnosis and treat for exactly what yu think you are dealing with. be very careful with anti bacterials because many of them kill all bacteria including your bio-filter and then you have to recyclethis may prove to be a necessary evil, but try to avoid it, and don't do anything quickly, research repeatedly, and diagnosee carefully. I have found over the years that it is esasier to kill fish with meds than to kill them with infections. Fish have immune systems also and most will heal in good water Just watch them closely.
Dave.
 
that sounds like a good idea. I think that I am going to do the whole switching thing on my day off. I did see a few of the fish flashing on the rocks and some still have the clamped fins on top and are hovering around the surface. I think that it will be good to tranfer them anyway to keep things safe for the long run. Thanks again for all your help Dave it is great to have help with this situation.
 
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