Tiger barbs dying

[Roan Art]

finally, someone one my side! that is what I meant! a BATH!! in saline! NOT a DIP!! END OF ARGUMENT!!!:mad2:

No, not end of argument. That is not enough salt to kill ich. You need 1-2 tsps per gallon, fishcatch22, to kill ich.

Removing the fish will also not kill the ich in the main tank. Now you'll have TWO tanks with ich in them: the tank with the barb and the main tank.

It's best to treat the MAIN tank with 2 tsps per gallon and continue treatment for at least 7 days after you see the last spot disappear.

Roan

 

[fishcatch22]

No, not end of argument. That is not enough salt to kill ich. You need 1-2 tsps per gallon, fishcatch22, to kill ich.

Removing the fish will also not kill the ich in the main tank. Now you'll have TWO tanks with ich in them: the tank with the barb and the main tank.

It's best to treat the MAIN tank with 2 tsps per gallon and continue treatment for at least 7 days after you see the last spot disappear.

Roan

:idea: sorry, i'll use "salt treatment" from now on, now lets stop fighting!
we're people! not bettas!

 

[Roan Art]

:idea: sorry, i'll use "salt treatment" from now on, now lets stop fighting!
we're people! not bettas!

Who's fighting?

Part of the problem in this hobby is newbie confusion. We use words they don't understand and words that mean totally different things to them. For instance, if I say "salts", as in "cichlid salts" or even "cichlid salt", the majority of newbies -- and some that are not newbies -- are going to assume that I mean NaCl. I don't.

Salts means any crystalized mineral and refers to a mix of these minerals, not just Na.

But people think it means table salt, aquarium salt. So if I said to someone, "use salts in your cichlid tank", what do you think they are going to throw in there? Aquarium salt, most likely, and that is not "salts".

My point is that we need to be concise so that people who are new to the hobby understand exactly what we mean. Not doing so can mean dead fish
That's why I don't say "salts" anymore unless I explain exactly what I mean by that and why I don't mean NaCl.

So, I'm not fighting with you. Just trying to get on the same page so that people know what we mean when we give advice.

Roan

 

[Star_Rider]

Hear..hear for roan :clap:


I am inclined to agree with much of what Roan has said.

we do need to be more concises..salt when used for ich is indeed a sodium treatment.


(there are other meds) but the treatmen needs to be done for the entire tank and for the entire amount of time..





some folks believe a salt 'dip' is beneficial, but I believe the jury is still out on that(it will not get rid of ich..but many believe that the salt (sodium)willl stimuate slime production and lesses the effects of stress from the ich..(I don't agree I personally feel this stresses the fish more)

please do read anything you can find about ich..it is an infestation and you will atleast get peace of mind.

 

[fishcatch22]

Who's fighting?

Part of the problem in this hobby is newbie confusion. We use words they don't understand and words that mean totally different things to them. For instance, if I say "salts", as in "cichlid salts" or even "cichlid salt", the majority of newbies -- and some that are not newbies -- are going to assume that I mean NaCl. I don't.

Salts means any crystalized mineral and refers to a mix of these minerals, not just Na.

But people think it means table salt, aquarium salt. So if I said to someone, "use salts in your cichlid tank", what do you think they are going to throw in there? Aquarium salt, most likely, and that is not "salts".

My point is that we need to be concise so that people who are new to the hobby understand exactly what we mean. Not doing so can mean dead fish
That's why I don't say "salts" anymore unless I explain exactly what I mean by that and why I don't mean NaCl.

So, I'm not fighting with you. Just trying to get on the same page so that people know what we mean when we give advice.

Roan

yeah roan, I haven't been a fish advice giver as long as you have... my mother made quite sure I made none of the typical newbie mistakes when I got my first tank 8 years ago... she's quite experienced with fish, though now i've graduated to fish she knows nothing about and are having to learn about them all by myself. I will admit I still have a lot to learn, and i'll be more politically correct from now on...