Two questions - Fish? Sand Vs gravel

tmpadmin,

We take rocks and plants out of our local creek and pond all the time and put them right into the tank, the fish love the algae that is on the rocks. Plus they get a few critters as a bonus to add to their diet. I just set up a new aquarium for my oscars, I got all my rocks and gravel from the ocean, no boiling, I just rinsed the gravel. So you can either go $pend alot of money $$$ on little choices, or explore your local waters for some beautiful finds. It works for me, it should work for every one.
 
sumthin fishy said:
Sometimes it's easy to serch the forrums to get your answers, as the question may have come up before. When I searched "freshwater stingray" I got nothing, then I just put in "Stingray" and got a few hits. OGs post on this one should give you some answers. HTH
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56802&highlight=stingray
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I read that one. But this guy says they won't even get as big as your hand. Maybe they are not even stingrays? I am very courious because who could deny the fascination, especially with one that small. On the other hand I would hate to get one and it grow, and grow, and grow. Then I'm only fostering my dream of a 100 gal tank or the prospect of having to find a good home for the little guy/gal.

Bob1962: By rights that makes sense, why shouldn't it work? However, since I never did it, I'm a bit nervous. But having your input eases my mind. No offence but can anyone else attest to this?

nlmadison: I don't know if Dow is here but there are a ton of plants that do dump who knows what into the lake. But don't forget we have that zebra muscle issue that the lake is the cleanest it has been in like 30 years. WHOA! Zebra muscles clogging up my filter!!! To many variables. What about what Bob1962 said, do you think the streams around here could be a better alternative?
 
Kasakato said:
Bob is wrong. There is way to high of a change that there is some weird chemical in the water.
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Should I pop some popcorn, sit back and watch the debate? :)
 
tmpadmin said:
Should I pop some popcorn, sit back and watch the debate? :)
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You mean the argument?
Bob is RIGHT that he hasn't noticed (note I said "noticed") any problems, but WRONG that it will work for everyone. There is a chance you won't have problems with it, but no guarentee. If you do get decor/gravel from a lake or pond, do like kas said, rinse well and soak in bleach solution. Then make sure to use some dechlor. to get rid of the bleach.

As for the fish, getting the genus/species will be needed for accurate advice. I can say you will need a bigger tank no matter which type of stingray you get.
 
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nlmadison: I don't know if Dow is here but there are a ton of plants that do dump who knows what into the lake. But don't forget we have that zebra muscle issue that the lake is the cleanest it has been in like 30 years. WHOA! Zebra muscles clogging up my filter!!! To many variables. What about what Bob1962 said, do you think the streams around here could be a better alternative?[/QUOTE]


It's been a good 30 years since I've been to Buffalo/Lake Erie, but I do distinctly remember traveling along the posted "Scenic Route" where one side of the road was the Lake Erie/Niagra River and the other side was mile after mile of Dow Chemical Plant. I do remember that the Canadian shore (Silver Bay area) was pretty clean even then unless there was a storm and the algae washed up on the beach (Stinky~!). But you still didn't want to eat the fish.
 
Kasakato said:
Bob is wrong. There is way to high of a change that there is some weird chemical in the water.
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Yeah, and the zillions of fish living in this vast lake can attest to you that it is safe. You had better stop drinking the chemicals. You might get a 3rd eye :sim:
 
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