Vehicles can not be used to commit deadly force???????

[NowherMan6]

I couldn't agree more with the past 3 or 4 posts. Harlock, I think your second to last post was especially insightful, and ryknier, you deserve credit for just bringing up such an explosive topic.

Just to add my own little story: When I was a kid, I got the wooden spoon. 'Nuff said. Now I see the way parents deal with troubled kids and I shake my head. A year or so ago my little cousin, then 5 years old, picked up a wiffleball bat and cracked my uncle in the back of the legs with it. WHAM! Right behind the knees. His dad walks over and says, "Now why did you do that? Tell me why you did that?" And Im thinking, WHY?? WHO CARES WHY!!! I would've gotten a beatin' for doing something like that.

The problems with troubled kids don't always start with the parents, I'm sure there are very good parents out there whose kids just fell in with the wrong crowd etc., but to let this kid degenerate to this point and then act surprised at what he did and try to blame some cop... feh.

 

[happychem]

You're right NowhereMan, troubled kids aren't always caused by bad parents, just as there are some good kids that come from bad parents. But I'd wager that those are more exceptions to the rule than not. It is a little tough on parents these days, look at the role models!

But I know exactly what ryknier means about the kids in the store, and I know exactly what I think, something to the effect of "how can you live with the shame?". I don't know how these people rationalize being bullied by their children to themselves, but for a grown person to be pushed around and completely ruled by a child, ugh. Call it what you want, but it ain't love to give your kid everything they want and spoil them.

 

[Lila]

I was a little concerned posting my thoughts on this one for starting a war! In todays soceity walking through the stores at a grocery store or even ANYWHERE for that fact, seriously! there is more compensation than anything, if a kid in a store wants something, the parent either says go ahead and put it in the cart, or they "reason" with thier child to something less expensive (generalizing now folks), I have never seen a parent, and I mean NEVER! seen a parent refuse thier kid.

LOL! You haven't seen me shopping with my kids!



Lila

 

[FL Knifemaker]

I wish my kids could spend a month under my parents roof!! We run a tight ship but nothing as tight as my parents did. I never hit my kids, or cause too much physical pain anyway My Dad would pick up the closest thing he could find and WHAMMO!!! Mom used a big mixing spoon. When I was about 14 I caught the mixing spoon mid swing and took it away from her. That was a pivotal change in the household By then I respected my Mom and she really didn't need it anyway. Back talk like I see kids doing today??? Not until I could outrun my Dad !! :soda:

 

[Harlock]

When I was about 14 I caught the mixing spoon mid swing and took it away from her.

I was abut the same age when I made some smart allec comment to my mom and when she went to slap me, I blocked it. I didn't mean to, but by that point I had been in enough tussles with my brother to just instinctively block a blow to the face. I apologized profusely and explained it to her. Later, as I was dusting the piano in the house, my mom called to me, I answered and she came in the room, walked up non-chalantly like she was going to ask me something, and so I kept dusting and *SMACK* right on the face. I truly deserved it, I admit it. I was a pest sometimes. Just goes to show... it may have been a pivotal day for you, all it proved to me was Mom wouldn't take it from a smart mouth, know-it-all 8th grader, no matter what. Karma I guess.

 

[125gJoe]

..... It is a little tough on parents these days, look at the role models!...... ,.....

I'm sorry -- but I thought it was funny seeing you "tagline" along with your post!


>> "Son, when you participate in sporting events it's not who wins or loses. It's how drunk you get." <<

 

[happychem]

:laugh: Yeah, not much of a role model, that one! Although I would make some allowance for him largely due to his constant failure. Anytime he's been on the verge of some fabulous discovery or riches, he does something to mess it up. Not much of a person to choose as a role model, but then, I think he'd be a rare choice.

On the other hand there's ample glorification of violent crime, objectifying women, and using tired, repetitious old beats to do it. At least rock and roll didn't use tired, repetitious old beats.