walmart employee needs help guys...

cougar

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I say this holding up a white flag ok, I need help not hate replies. I know there are literally hate groups and petitions against walmart selling fish. I'm one of the few guys that works at walmart in the pet department that cares. I and my co-worker need any advice that any of you guys have to offer on ick. We basically have 3 walls of tanks. Two warmer water walls(76 -78F) and one cold water (goldfish 70F) wall. The two warmer water walls are connected by a MARS 30gallon system sump. The goldfish wall has it's own 15 gallon sump. We constantly have a problem with ick in the goldfish wall. Yes since we're a supplier we do have an overstocking problem mostly with the small comet fish. To clear it up as a supplier of fish generally the tanks will be over stocked it's not like a home tank.
If we ever have a problem with ick in the warmer water tanks it's isolated and is EASY to remedy but the cold water tanks are SO much harder to cure. I did some research and found that ick reproduces after it falls off the fish. It then falls to the rocks or any ornaments or plants in the tanks and reproduces. I've removed all the plants and removed and bleached all the rocks in the cold water tanks and set them aside. I've turned the thermostat on the refridgerant up as high as I can to 80 degrees(this only cools the water it doesn't heat it) and the temp remains at a constant 70 degrees. The next step is to put a seperate heater in the sump to begin heating the water but I hesitate to do that. We've added extra salt because ick doesn't thrive well in salt but that hasn't helped it. If it were up to me I wouldn't stock anymore fish at all in the cold water wall and flush it out completely along with the sump and try again.

on another note.... when you have your own tank at home that you can work on and tank care of with limited fish it's easy. But when you're a supplier it's extremely difficult. We literally have to srub down all the walls on every tank atleast once every 1.5 weeks. You don't have to do that at home. We have to remove and CLEAN not just vaccum the rocks every 2 to 3 weeks, you don't have to do that at home. Granted the city I live in has about 5 superwalmarts that all sell fish and my store has literally probably the cleanest tanks because we TRY to take care of them unlike most people think. And when you're a supplier carrying LOTS of fish, fish will die it's a given. The difference between Walmart and Petsmart is that Petsmart is specifically a pet store, they pay someone to stand at that podium they have and do nothing but take care of the fish all day. We have to take care of fish, stock shelves, pull freight, help other departments all while we're making less than 8 bucks an hour. When you supply fish you come in at 1pm get all the dead fish out and by 4pm 10 more dead fish are already floating around the tank or being eating by it's neighboring fish, that's typical. Since we're not standing there doing nothing but that all day you will see dead fish in our tanks. Sorry.
 
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Ill give ya credit for trying....
But i still aint buying no wally mart fish LOL
 
Thank you for trying hard

The problem is not caused by you or the other WM employees. In the end, we are all to blame. Most people think of fish as disposable items. They buy em', enjoy looking at them, don't invest the time and effort to keep them healthy, they die, no problem, buy some more. Unfortunately, that is perhaps your typical customer. WM being capitalistic will cater to any desire that will give them a profit. You have to multi-task because in the end, that is how they keep the prices low and also that is how they take care of the shareholders of the company.

Anyway, enough rant. I just wanted to thank you for trying and being conscientious about the welfare of other living things. There are other things that are just as valuable as money, if not more so. Like the welfare of the other living things that share our planet.

You can try and keep some sort of preventive medication in that tank. Not the best approach, but let's face it. The situation is not exactly ideal, so you have to result to artificial means to compensate. Put some anti-ich medication in that tank to keep the parasites under control. You've got access to all of that stuff. Find the one that will work best for the situation.
 
Would less gravel make your time spent cleaning easier? If you worry about losing bacteria sites, then add a large air driven sponge.

As far as the ich, realize that the new fish are likely to bring in new ich with every purchase. Odds are they are carriers, and the rough trip to your store made them break out. You might be able to eliminate it by doing a salt dip on the new fish as they arrive but I doubt you have time to do that. The feeder goldfish are so mistreated at the farms.

You could go to a 0.3% salt solution in the tank, go up gradually in 0.1% per day increments. That is 1 teaspoon per gallon, about 2 cups per 100 gallons for 0.1%.

You might also tell us how you introduce new fish to the tanks, do you float to equalize temps then pour fish and water into the tanks, or float then net out the fish discarding the shipping water?
 
The problem I see with a permanent salt treatment is making sure to acclimate new fish very well or the water change could be deadly. It will be fine if a good employee is in charge but if someone else takes over then it could be bad.

I knwo the WalMarts around these parts keep bare tanks, maybe some live plants floating around that they sell but no rocks or decorations at all. I assume that is to help keep things as clean and disease free as possible.
 
i would get rid of the gravel - the ick will continue to hatch out of it - vacuuming the gravel will help to clear out some of the cysts but with new fish coming in allt he time the gravel is a breeding ground from which it can hatch
 
Despite WalMart's reputation, I just wanted to add my thanks to you for trying to be a concientious caretaker! Three cheers for you! :)
 
Well I must say not my fravorite place to buy. But when I lived in another town it was the only place to buy fish. My white clouds and cory catfish are still going strong three years larter. A lot of the problem is walmart and its need to sell fast (not always the employess as this thread has shown) but also the peopel buying fish. I have seen many walmart employees telling people that their choice of fish is not good, but the people buy them anyway. So both parties are to blame. It is up to the consumer to be responsible in knwoing what fish they are buying, how to properly take care of them and how to pick fish that are doing well.
 
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