Water temp. for Goldfish

Bettas are considered "loner fish" just like frogs are unfortunately. They have separate food because, yes, they like the size but also because many people who have bettas keep them alone in a small container.

Frogs can be feed pellets, flake foods, and live (and frozen) foods such as bloodworms. :)
 
Originally posted by aquariumfishguy


Actually, Goldfish can live to temps up to 100 degrees F., for a short period of time anyway. Certainly this isn’t ideal, but it is possible in extreme cases/situations.
when my goldfish tank went up to 90 for a few days, they started mating. i thought that they could only mate in ideal conditions-or is that not true? :confused:
 
First of all, thank you all for your answers. Now I understand things better. I am slightly disppointed that if we get nothing but Goldfish we won't be able to have a bigger variety of species, but I guess we can always get another, maybe this time a 55g, tank. ;)
When we went to the store, a counsellor there told us to look at all tanks they had and see which had heaters and which didn't and that this would be a good indicator of which fishes to put together in one aquarium. What do you think about this?

The book I keep mentioning as my main source of info besides this forum is called "The Tetra Encyclopedia Of Freshwater Tropical Aquarium Fishes" by D. Mills, and I believe it was written in the early 90's.

jacblades, you mentioned that you have a Goldfish tank. Could you please tell me a little bit more about your Goldfish, what you have in the same tank and if there's anything special you do to keep them? Thanks! :)
 
If you are looking to add a nice orange colouring to your tropical tank with angel fish then I might suggest platies or swordtails. Both can come in that lovely orange colour of a goldfish.

Also bear in mind that most goldfish change colour throughout their lives and some can end up a dull bronze colour when older.
 
Originally posted by jacblades When my goldfish tank went up to 90 for a few days, they started mating. I thought that they could only mate in ideal conditions-or is that not true?

"Ideal" for mating isn't what’s ideal for normal periods of time. In nature, when its July and the sun is beating down on a small area of water, it could easily approach 90* F. This isn't ideal under any circumstances, but it has been known to promote mating amongst "coldwater" fish such as Goldfish and is really quite natural. Usually Goldfish keepers who study mating habits recommend temperatures at or around 85* F. (ideally).
 
Yes, once again basic biology. Summer time is when there is the most food for new fry for species in temperate areas, hence an uptick in the temperature promotes breeding.
 
Originally posted by Sunny

jacblades, you mentioned that you have a Goldfish tank. Could you please tell me a little bit more about your Goldfish, what you have in the same tank and if there's anything special you do to keep them? Thanks! :)

well i have 3 small goldfish in a 10 which most people would say is a no-no but i change 1/4 of the water every day and all of my water parameters seem to be ok. when they get a little larger, i will probably get a bigger tank for them. i have a whisper junior filter in with them and an air curtain. no substrate. i feed them a vriety of foods (probably about 10 different foods)
i also have a larger goldfish alone in another 10 with a whisper 10 filter and an air curtain. i have large 1 inch and 1/2 inch glass beads in with him that he likes to pick up and toss around to amuse himself. i change between 1/3 and 1/4 of his water about twice a week. i have had him longer than any of my other fish but i will soon be transferring him to a 40 gallon (because he deserves it! and because someone is just giving me the tank) :D
 
Jac, couldn't you put all the Goldfish in the 40 gallon aquarium for the time being? It certainly will not be enough for them in the long term, but it would be better than having them in a 10 gallon tank.

Just a thought. :confused:
 
I currently keep five goldfish and two carp (koi) in a 55 gallon tank. The main problems with keeping carp and similar fish with Angels is they are fast moving eating machines that will simply out-compete anything else in the aquarium (when I feed them all the food is gone in under five seconds). I have not attempted to keep them together, but when I was foolish enough to keep four goldfish in my pictus tank they generally ate everything that went into the tank (or at least until the catfish chased them off).
 
Originally posted by aquariumfishguy
Jac, couldn't you put all the Goldfish in the 40 gallon aquarium for the time being? It certainly will not be enough for them in the long term, but it would be better than having them in a 10 gallon tank.

Just a thought. :confused:

i dont have the tank yet. the three fish are too small to be in with the bigger fish. i once had a smaller fancy goldfish in wiht him and he tore his fins off. he definately has to stay alone. he has grown way too large for the 10 too so he is deserving of the 40.
if i have any problems with the little goldfish i always have a 20gal storage tub i could put them in as a last resort, although i already tried to hang the filter on the edge and it wont fit. :(
 
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