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My dad has one but he lost the paper for the messurements and numbers....So I won't get the readings from that test kit. He won't allow me to use it anyway. I do spend money on my fish, I well spent over 300 on supplies such as food, filters, plants and meds for them, but that was over time. I sepnd $20 alone on the carbon refills for my filter, i change the carbon every few weeks and I clean the whole filter out twice a month.

If you can get readings from your dad's liquid test kit, there are literally hundreds of us here that can tell you what the readings mean.

As for your dad not letting you use it, I suggest asking him, and explaining why before just deciding that he won't. I can't imagine many parents being upset by the idea of their children trying to properly care for their fish, especially when they seem to be in the hobby themselves.

You can save yourself some money by not buying the carbon filters anymore. You can take a used carbon filter, cut it open, remove the carbon, wash it out well, and re-use it in the tank as mechanical filtration. Carbon doesn't do much for an aquarium aside from remove nasty smells (if they exist) and remove medications.

I don't think people are as upset that you don't have money, as they are that you chose to spend your money on test strips, which you were told by several people are not reliable. Cheaper or not, if the results aren't accurate, they're nothing but a waste of money. And as was pointed out before, although the price tag may be cheaper for test strips, when you factor in the number of tests you can do, the liquid kits are far LESS expensive in the long run. And if you intend to keep your fish for longer than a few months, the long run should be what you're concerned with.

You mentioned having "old" fish and assuming that that's why they're dying off. You also mentioned only being in the hobby for a year. Do some research online. You'll find that the average lifespan of most fish is FAR longer than a year, often up to 10-20 years (depending on the species). Just because a year may be relatively long to you, doesn't mean that it's natural if a fish dies after that long.

Most importantly, when you ask for advice from people more knowledgeable and experienced than you, believe me (as someone who made their share of mistakes when they were new to the hobby), you should give more consideration to what they have to say. They may not always be "right" (simply because there's often not just one right answer), but their advice is based off of far more experience than you have, and is given with the best interest of your fish in mind. It's at least worthy of putting some thought into, perhaps researching their suggestions if you have any doubts about what they have to say. If money is an issue, post about it here, and you can get suggestions for low cost options, or as in this case, assurance that you're better off saving your money until you can afford reliable equipment.
 
Bob, I was trying to error on the side of kindness rather than absolute perfectness. Maybe I shouldn't, but I try not to frustrate new people into stopping the hobby.

The problem being (in this case at least), that test strips are so unreliable, that that kind of kindness is just encouraging people to use unreliable equipment, pointlessly. It's far more frustrating to lose fish due to bad water quality, than to find out you are using an unreliable method of testing that water.

Money is a huge factor in fishkeeping. The more you can educate a person to help them not waste money on products that don't work or aren't reliable, the better off they'll be, even if they are temporarily upset because they purchased the wrong thing.
 
some of my fish are old, so if one dies, it's age not me. I had this tank for close to a year now and everything is just fine, in my old tank i did 50% water changes and my fish kept dying after the changes. The water I pu it was the right temp. My dad told me I don't have to do water changes due to the live plants I have in my tank.
You did something wrong. Either you allowed too much time between such large changes, or you made a mistake with the new water. The trick to raising fry is to overfeed heavily and change enough water so that water quality remains pristine. Just yesterday I transferred 9 Blue Gularis fry to their grow out tank. I hatched them on 4/28/12 in a 6 oz bowl and kept them in there for the first week before tranferring them to a quart and then a half gallon container. I was feeding several times a day and doing at least one 50% water change daily. They hatched out as slivers 1/16" long that would have to wrestle BBS before eating them, and now the smallest is a bit over an inch long and looks like a young adult female Guppy. Had I not been changing water so heavily, if they were still alive the fish would be considerably smaller regardless of how much food they ate. There is nothing which eliminates the need for water changes. Plants certainly help by taking up nitrates and phosphates, but there are other things which can either accumulate or be depleted and in FW changes are generally the best way.
 
I been in the hobby for 10 years, not a year, it's been a year since I moved the fish I had from the 30 gallon from my grandparents to the 37 gallon at my dad's house. I had tanks where i used to live 10 years ago and I had those fish live for a few years, the oldest being 6 years old when it passed. My dad uses all of my stuff such as my meds and he uses it all in his 72 gallon, and he never replaces the stuff he used. I can buy a med for ick for $8 at Petco and he'll use the whole thing in his tank... I asked if I could use his fungus cure once and he said no....I had to go and buy it myself....He wants me to buy everything for myself. Even the new filter I want to buy for my tank.
 
I'm starting to wonder if you just do this to get to people. I come from forums where people regularly try to get under other people's skin so it makes me suspicious. Every time someone has told you that something is wrong you've not really even answered them except to give a reason why you did it your way. I'm sorry that you're having issues in your tank but here's what you need to take away from what people are saying

-get a liquid test kit, you can even buy single bottles of the API test kit by themselves so you can at least buy the ammonia and nitrite test if you aren't going to buy the whole kit

-fix your stock, no matter what the excuse there are issues with it

-do water changes and regular tank maintenance. Water changes did not kill your fish, not doing water changes for a long time and then doing one or not dechlorinating your water killed your fish

Like it or not most everything anyone has told you here would be in the best interest of your fish and you have decreased their lifespan considerably (as evidenced by the early deaths). I hope it goes well for ya
 
I been in the hobby for 10 years, not a year, it's been a year since I moved the fish I had from the 30 gallon from my grandparents to the 37 gallon at my dad's house. I had tanks where i used to live 10 years ago and I had those fish live for a few years, the oldest being 6 years old when it passed. My dad uses all of my stuff such as my meds and he uses it all in his 72 gallon, and he never replaces the stuff he used. I can buy a med for ick for $8 at Petco and he'll use the whole thing in his tank... I asked if I could use his fungus cure once and he said no....I had to go and buy it myself....He wants me to buy everything for myself. Even the new filter I want to buy for my tank.
If you took all of the money you spend on meds, pH up & down, and most of the other stuff you "need", and spent it on a good quality chlorine neutralizer and did 50% weekly water changes your fish would be healthier and your wallet would be fatter. And given your father's ideas on changing water I doubt you'd have to worry about him using it up on you.
 
The filters with bio-wheels are great, but the #1 reason my wheel will stop turning is due to the cartridge in back sitting too low. When I lift it up, the wheel will start again. I finally put in a 1/8" piece of flat plastic for it to sit on. They'll also stop if the tank water level is low or if they get too much gunk on the folds.
 
If you took all of the money you spend on meds, pH up & down, and most of the other stuff you "need", and spent it on a good quality chlorine neutralizer and did 50% weekly water changes your fish would be healthier and your wallet would be fatter. And given your father's ideas on changing water I doubt you'd have to worry about him using it up on you.

This is absolutely true. I do 50% weekly water changes on all 5 of my tanks, and haven't had any trouble in any of them since I began doing so. No sickness, no deaths, no PH problems, etc. It's to the point now that my fish won't quit spawning the water quality is so good! Since I started doing this weekly routine, I've been able to quit using charcoal in my filters, quit using UV sterilizers that need replacement bulbs, quit buying medications, quit buying water treatment additives (aside from dechlorinator & plant ferts) and so on... This saves me a TON of money, which I would otherwise have to spend on trying to fix water quality problems and trying to heal sick fish. Most importantly, I get to quit worrying about my fish, and I get to simply enjoy them.

All due to doing nothing more than simple 50% water changes with fresh, temperature matched, dechlorinated water, every single week (and keeping stocking levels appropriate).
 
I use Aquasafe when I do get a chance to do a water change, only when I have off of work which is like I'm not sure, once or twice a week. I do get 10% water changes done every few days, when I'm not busy. Right now I'm rying to get my two Angels to quit laying eggs on my filter intake, I have to clean that quite a bit, cause algae builds up on and in it. I don't buy Ph up and down, the clear water stuff and other things. I use Melafix and Pimafix since they are natural and made with tea leaves, and doesn't harm my plants. I do plan on doing a small water change on Monday next week, but first I have to get a new breeder net for my fry that has suction cups....

I haven't had any fish die in awhile, I moved more of my swordtails to my dad's 72 gallon, and he may take my guppy fry once they get bigger.
 
Oh don't buy a new breeder. Save for that test kit;). The one I use is the extremely cheap plastic frame mesh one, that comes with these little metal arm things that you hook over the edge of the tank. It won't fit in the tank I needed it for with those arms unless I leave the lid off. So I took cheesy little suction cups made to hold air tubing (maybe 2$ for 6) and put them on. The easiest way I found was to pull the little pokey thing out of the suction cup, then shove it back in with the mesh wall in between. I have since switched to two heavier duty suction cups for ease of use, but the tiny ones worked fine. Then I had the little plastic tube holders along the top edge of the breeder.. I pulled a couple of the old plastic plants apart into stems, and clipped on. I figure that made it a little more private for mom, and provided some hiding spots for fry until I got her out.
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