Watts - Kelvin???

TonyN

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I guess I dont really understand the relationship between wattage and color temperature.
For instance: which would be best for plants. A 30 watt bulb with 12000k or a 60 watt bulb with 6000k?
Can somebody explain this to me?

Thanks,
 
60 watts for sure. I'm no expert but have done a lot of research on lighting. Watts is a good basic guide to the amount of light a bulb puts out (assuming fluorescent bulb). Kelvin rating doesn't say anything about the amount of light, only what it looks like to us. Lower K rating means more yellow, higher means more bluish look to it.
 
Ok - but what if you had 60 watts with only 2000k. As I understand it, the plants cant use the light if the color temp is too low.:confused:
 
Originally posted by Captain Hook
Kelvin rating doesn't say anything about the amount of light, only what it looks like to us.

The color the light appears also impacts how much light is avaliable to the plant.

The best kelvin ratings for plants are around 5000-7,000 K.

But be warned that despite the given K value bulbs can appear and perform very differently. K values are not in any way an industry standard measurment.

If you really want to know whats best for plants, look to see if you can find the PAR or PPFD rating of a particular bulb. That rating will tell you how much light the bulb puts out that is avaliable to photosynthetic critters.
 
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Lets compare lighting to food ;)

wattage is the energy output from the light, which determines how much energy a plant can use for photosynthesis. It can be compared to the amount of food you put in the tank.

Color temperature describes the amount of heat in kelvin that a light bulb reaches in order achieve a color. At certain kelvin readings, the lightbulb will emit more color of a certain wavelength (red, green, blue). Plants require light at the red wavelength for photosynthesis, and a color temperature between 4,800 to 6,500k offers the most light in the red spectrum, hence the recommendation for "daylight" lighting. For simplicity, you can compare the color temperature to the type of food.

Some food is ealthier than others but given enough food (wattage), anything will grow. People have successfully grown plants using just incandescant lighting, which are usually in the 2,500-2,800k range. Quality won't matter if the quantity isn't there to begin with.
 
Ok - so far so good. Now how about this: I've seen a lot of lights that say they are actinic 03 blue, but you never see a k rating on this type bulb. Why is that?
 
Actinism is a property of radiation which, in the visible spectrum, has wavelengths between 380nm and 500nm.


You cant really compare them to other types of lighting because their entire output is in the blue range, they put out no white light.

If you needed to put them on the kelvin scale they would be >50,000 K.
 
The watt rating on a bulb is the power it consumes. In common florescent hoods, you will get a set wattage for each length of bulb, 48" bulb is 40 watts, 36" bulb is 30 watts, etc. Incandescent bulbs release most of that power as heat, good for reptiles, bad for fish tanks. Flourescent bulbs are cooler running, and the exact light they give off depends on the stuff used to flouresce, different chemicals give different light bursts.

So, in your hood, you may be limited by the length of the tank to certain types of lights. In order to get more wattage in a hood, you can get a compact florescent, which is a long bent tube or two tubes melded together. This can give you a 21" long 55 watt bulb for example. It takes a different plug and ballast to power it though so it all adds up in cost. So, in order to get the light you need, you first start with the tank size and how much light you need, then you narrow it down to the budget you have to work with.

Color temp is how the total light produced by the bulb compares to a star, with the lower numbers being yellower and the higher numbers being whiter or even bluer. But that does not describe the individual peaks at different wavelengths that were averaged out to that color temp.

You can look at a spectrum chart with many bulbs, and see the individual peaks and how broad those spikes are in each color wavelength, but it is still very confusing. My favorite bulbs look totally different on the charts, one is a nearly flattened bell-shaped curve, with narrow spikes in blue and green. The other looks like a heart rhythm, with high peaks in both blue and green and the highest peak in red, but when it is on it looks whiter than the other.

After saying all that, the best thing to do is to simply ask us, or other forums where people have used the various bulbs and have developed opinions, the bulbs are too expensive to just buy and try them. Bulbs will work differently in different setups due to the different ballasts used.

Now, you don't want the 12,000K bulb, that is typically for salt water and has too much blue which is what coral needs. The 6000K is probably fine, but there may be other choices there that will also work well. I have a 9325K GE Fresh and Saltwater bulb that is great, if you can find that you might want to try it.

But, let's be certain you are not mixing up florescent (two pin) and incandescent bulbs (screw-in), the hood you have will accept one or the other. Other types of hoods may take 4 pin compact fourescents.
 
Thanks everybody for the info. I was actually only asking the question out of curiosity. I already have a Coralife 65w 50/50 in my 20 gal. My plants are thriving and I really like the way it looks. I just got lucky when I ordered the light, since I had no idea what I was ordering.
Just recently I bought two very small incandescent hoods (for 2 1/2 gal tanks) and put a 50/50 screw in Compact Fluorescent in each of them and put them in front of the 65w fixture. So I guess I'm all set for lighting,

Thanks again for the answers,
 
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