What is hapenning to my Ram?

gsparsan

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Could anyone please help me diagnose this ram? The entire head is swollen since yesterday. This morning, one eye is very swollen and red. Is that a desease? Or is my ram being bullied by the other male ram?

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he seems beaten up real bad,better take him out to another tank with some with from the main tank. He may have infection from the wounds,maybe popeye ?
 
I cannot tell from those pics. But if the eye looks swollen as in Popeye.. I would act fast. if it is Popeye and turns into bloat or already has an internall parasite.. You may already be too late.

Could we get better pics?

Maybe pull nad put in a small jar with water from your aquarium and take pics of affected areas? Will not hurt the fish. Thanks.
 
I can't get better pics right now. I will as soon as I get home tonight.

If it is popeye, how contagious is it? I finally seem to have a stable tank with everything going smoothly. I don't want an outbreak of anything.
 
That second pic kinda makes it look like an internal parasite is in the fishes head.. If that is the case.. You will probably lose the fish... I would seperate taht fish before the head bursts or you could find that it is contageous.
 
3 days ago, it looked perferctly normal. Its amazing how fast it has deteriorated. I'll separate it form the rest just in case.
 
HITH/HLLE would be my guess.


metro and clean water.. vary the diet as this has been associated with lack of nutrition.
Flagellated protozoa have been associated with cases of HITH but not with HLLE.
IME, HITH /HLLE is a problem some cichlids may run into.. some seem to have more resistance to it. while others more susceptible.
 
HITH/HLLE would be my guess.


metro and clean water.. vary the diet as this has been associated with lack of nutrition.
Flagellated protozoa have been associated with cases of HITH but not with HLLE.
IME, HITH /HLLE is a problem some cichlids may run into.. some seem to have more resistance to it. while others more susceptible.


I agree. http://www.pondcare.com/Products/TechSheet.aspx?TechSheetID=7 says clout is a good medication. The earlier you catch it the better. The water in your pics seems to have a lot of particulate matter floating around. What are the water paramaters? You said your tanks is finally stable.
 
When I changed water last saturday, the tap water was colder than usual. Can this contribute to it? As for the ram, I think its too late for him. I have put him in a QT earlier and after 4 hours in QT, he has started to swim upside down! Not a good sign. Out of desperation, I had put some primafix in the QT but I have no hope. I really liked this fish.

I will read about HITH/HLLE. I feed them Hikari tropical sticks and tetra cichlid sticks with occasional dried frozen tubifex. I never feed live food or fresh food.

Water parameters as usual ph 6.5; NH3 0; N02 0; NO3 10-20.

I had a few internal parasite problems beginning of the year, which affected only live bearers. When I came out of it, i had a week of itch but i managed to get through it. Then I changed the setup to heavily planted. I had a few algae problems initially but everything has been stable for 4 months. The water parameters have never been a problem although I had some problems with temperature a couple of times during bad weather.
 
I agree. http://www.pondcare.com/Products/TechSheet.aspx?TechSheetID=7 says clout is a good medication. The earlier you catch it the better. The water in your pics seems to have a lot of particulate matter floating around. What are the water paramaters? You said your tanks is finally stable.

The particulate matter is on the outside glass . Just dried water drops. I had been trimming plants just before and didn't get a chance to wipe it properly.
 
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