:headshake2: :lipssealedsmilie: :headshake2: :lipssealedsmilie:IMO loaches should not be purchased as a means of snail control. If you want to get rid of the snails pick them out by hand.
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You obviously have not had pond snails all over everything including the walls which are so thick with them that you hardly see into the tank.
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You are correct in that I was overfeeding a bunch (which was not good) but who would want pond snails?That just means you are over feeding. My friend had gotten some ramshorn snails from my tank and I couldn't believe how many he had. 10 times more then I ever saw in my tank. I told him to cut down on the feedings and they slowly disappeared.
Best way to control snails is to not over feed. Snails are actually a good thing in moderate numbers.
Pangios will not effectively eradicate the snails but you are buying the loaches for the wrong reasons. Snails aren't that bad. Simply control their population by manually removing them, crushing them for the fish to eat and controlling feeding rations.I have read that for snail control a loach would be the way to go.
I am building a planted tetra type of tank. 30 gal and all the plants at every lfs has small snails all over them.
I thought about Black Kuhlii Loach (Pangio sp.) Would this help with the snails?
Thanks for any help on this.
Kuhlis are actually fine for a 30g. So are the sids at a group of 6-8. Sids are much more effective at consuming snails but also very expensive. I still wouldn't buy them for the sake of eliminating the snails.30 gal is small for any loach..
Maybe Sids..(Dwarf loach, zipper loach)
they are only about 3" full grown.. Dont know about them eating snails.
I dont think Kuhlis eat snails...
check out the link below
http://www.loaches.com/species-index/yasuhikotakia-sidthimunki
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Yasuhikotakia morleti will never work. They are very effective in consuming snails but the OP is planning to keep tetras. I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple of fish mangled with red streaks around their body, damaged fins and no eyes.Skunks, Angelicus Botia... all the thicker bodied ones eat snails (I think), but they all get too big to have a group of them in a small tank.
If you've no need of any other fish in said tank, you could look into a dwarf puffer, or better yet, just feed & remove them.
Unfortunately, the OP's tank is 30g so even a small group is too tight for it. Yoyos are by far one of the fastest growing botiine loaches.We got Yoyo Loaches in ours (200L) and they got rid of all the snails in no tome. Cool to watch too.
You really can't keep one. They are sociable fish and therefore should not be deprived of their company. 3 is the minimum number although 5 is even better.From what I have read, Clown Loaches devour snails. I was going to get one until I read, "Clown loaches will shuck your snails as fast as you can throw them in the tank. Put on your waterproof lipstick and kiss your mystery snails goodbye!"
:iagree:IMO loaches should not be purchased as a means of snail control. If you want to get rid of the snails pick them out by hand.
My yoyos were 2 inches when they ate all my MTS.For some reason the Yoyos do not get after MTS until they get large and MTSs are wonderful things.
Blue:My yoyos were 2 inches when they ate all my MTS.erv:
I keep plenty in my two 5G hexes just in case.I still regret at times not saving a few for all my loaches to eat.
Yoyos aren't as adept as most other loaches in grabbing snails burrowing under crevices to avoid predation. Their snouts aren't that elongated enough for such thing. If you compare them with tiger loaches, tiger loaches are even much more adept but the downside is that they are also very nasty fish so they're not considered as community fish.Blue:
I have no explanation.
I have three grown adults and every morning when I turn on the lights I observe many tiny MTSs. They are whitish when very young.
Several or many adults must be in the tank hidden from the Yoyos.
I'd consider them worse than convicts, Squawkbert. They're far too troublesome unless their tankmates are able to defend themselves. Only best tankmates are the feisty barbs and other aggressive loaches such as the tigers.I've read that Skunks can be quite a handful and somewhat aggressive, but I didn't know they were *that* bad.