What Should I Do?

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This will be a lengthy post, so get comfortable!

Ok, first an overview of the problem:
My 29 gal. tank has been running for about 3 months now. It is well planted, and water chemistry has been stable. Ph=7.2, Ammonia=0, nitrites=0, nitrates at or below 5 ppm. Everything was fine and dandy until a zebra oto passed away about 2 weeks ago. I concluded that it had wedged itself between the driftwood and glass and had died. Well, the next day a halfbeak passed away, and the day after that another halfbeak passed away. This really had me worrying.....the water quality had not changed, and I religiously do 25-30% water changes weekly, with two changes every other week. The fish exhibited no apparent signs of illness prior to dying, they went from alive and seemingly healthy to dead in no time.

The only odd behavior I noticed in the halfbeaks was that they were at the bottom feeding on veggie wafers (which is quite strange). Since the oto had eaten these as well, I suspected the wafers may be the problem and stopped feeding them. However, all the other fish in the tank (with the exception of the two remaining halfbeaks in that tank) had been feeding on them as well, and are still doing fine.

Then a couple of days ago I read a thread on here that mentioned camallanus worms. This caught my attention right away, because I received a shipment of floating plants about 6 weeks ago that contained some worms. They were reddish in color and very long (4 inches+). I did my best to avoid introducing them to the tank, but it is difficult to thouroughly rinse azolla. One of the long worms escaped into the gravel before I could remove it, and I also noticed a couple of tiny wigglers that I was unable to remove. I saw no sign of the worms after that, so I didn't think much of it until reading that post.

Now I am wondering if I have camallanus worms. However,I never noticed any protrusions from the anus of the fish, and they didn't seem to "waste away". They just went from alive and active to dead seemingly instantly. I have noticed one of my remaining halfbeaks (one that is still in the 29 gal.) has been passing whitish/clearish feces though, and does appear to have a "pinched" appearance to it's belly.

I am very worried about the rest of my fish. Currently two of the halfbeaks are in the 40 BR and doing very well (or so it seems), and two halfbeaks, two honey gouramis, an oto, and three zebra otos remain in the 29 gal. I wanted to move the two other HBs and possibly the zebras out of the 29, but I do not want to infest my new tank with parasites if that is indeed what I have.

I have read about the treatment for camallanus, and it says the ph needs to be dropped below 7.0 for it to be effective. I don't like the idea of adjusting my ph, since halfbeaks and otos are known for being extra sensitive to ph shifts. Also I don't know where to get my hand on the treatment, or what it would cost me. And I'm not sure if I really have camallanus or some type of harmless worm. But something is killing my fish.......:(

Is there something I have overlooked, or does anyone have ideas on what my best course of action would be? I could really use some help on this!
 
If a fish starts passing whiteish poo then thats usually a sign of an internal worm/parasite.

I am not sure how you would treat it, but your right not moving anything to a different tank as that may spread the problem.

I am sure one of the "experts" on here should be able to help woth a treatment or cure, hey may even prove me worng if your lucky

Sorry to hear about your losses, I am in the same boat at the moment with a nitrite problem
 
Thanks RobUK. I'm hoping I don't have parasites, but at the same time I fear the worst. To make things worse, I have new fish on the way......they will have to be put in the 40 for now, and I'll just have to hope the two fish in there now are parasite free.

I figured including which foods I feed may help. The halfbeaks and gouramis have a diet including flake food, freeze dried daphnia and tubifex, frozen bloodworms, and live fruit flies (which only the halfbeaks eat). For the otos I feed veggie wafers (which I stopped doing after the deaths), romaine lettuce, seedless cucumber, and zucchini.

I haven't had any more losses since I stopped feeding the veggie wafers, so I'm hoping that was indeed the problem. But I don't understand how the wafers could have had such a bad effect.

I don't know.........I'm still stumped on this one. The fact that the fish seemed perfectly healthy prior to dying leaves me puzzled.
 
The problem may be the lack of brackish water, halfbeaks are brackish fish and like most BW fish they don't thrive in FW. Their immune systems are weakened and they ultimately live a much shorter life in FW.
 
Sorry I wasn't more specific on that.......the species I have are Celebes Halfbeaks, which are actually a freshwater fish. Many halfbeak species are BW fish, but these aren't one of them. Thanks though.
 
Well........I guess I will just continue to monitor the situation. So far no more deaths or obvious symptoms of a problem.

Did I leave out any details that may be helpful?
 
Not that I'm the expert, but I've read that garlic can be a good, natrual treatment against internal parasites. You can soak their favorite food in it (with a little tank water). It also stimulates appetite.

Just a thought.
 
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