What to put with Ploppy

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Betta-Bender

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hello i have recently got a 29 gallon tank and in a week it will be going tropical

at the moment i have a goldfish in therecalled ploppy i have read all the jargon about 55 gallon tanks for one gold fish.
but my local fish breeder who used to work at the local aquarium said thats not the case at all and that ploppy is fine
i have known him for along time and respect his advice so now thats over with
i can get on with my question.

what other fish can i put with ploppy?
i have fluval 800 litres per hour filter
and will be getting a heater

i want to get
a pair of angelfish

a school of 7 medium sized tetras (could you reccomend a speicies?)

and a cory

any suggestions
acept i am definatly getting the angelfish :)

thanks
 
Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you really can't put any of the things you wanted in with Ploppy. Goldfish are coldwater fish and need to be kept in an unheated tank while angels, tetras, and corys need to be kept in a heated tank.

That said, I think you should give Ploppy back to your local fish breeder, purchase a heater for the tank, then get the angels, tetras, and some corys(like to be kept in groups) that you want. Or, depending upon his species, you could keep Ploppy in the current tank(without heater) but you really shouldn't add any other fish. Goldfish get quite large and produce large amounts of waste that can quickly pollute tank water. Either way, I recommend that you test your water regularly and do weekly water changes. You do know about cycling a tank, right? If not, just do a google search on cycling aquarium and you will learn all you need to know.

Good luck! :D
 
Well, your first problem is that Ploppy (a goldfish) is a cold water fish and should be kept around 72 degrees or cooler. Tropical fish, especially angels should be kept around 79 degrees. They require much warmer water than goldfish and it is not a good idea at all to combine goldfish with tropicals. Plus, goldfish require double the filtration of tropicals and that size tank couldn't hold the bioload of your planned fish. It would be overstocked and if you add a goldfish to it that makes the bioload extremely high. I guess what I'm trying to say is they are different types of fish who demand different requirements.

I'm sorry, I'm sure that's not what you wanted to hear but either stick with goldfish, or find ploppy a new home and move on to tropicals.
 
oh well thanks for your advice :)
however my local fish breeder keeps his goldfish with tropicals and says its fine to do so as long as you keep the temperature at a staedy compromise beetween tropical and cold water about 77 F.
he also bred and showed angelfish he has some gorgeous breeds there inculding some dwarfs i think i saw a lable saying :)

i had grown quite attached to ploppy
he was an adopted fish
his mate plippy who i also had, died of white spot :(

which i am treating with the appropriate medicen and they are clearing up now
just a little bit longer and he will be better.
i will have a think anyway
thank you for your input
 
Please don't post in the future asking for advice if you are not going to follow it.

Your "breeder" friend is wrong, and any knowledgeable aquarium owner would agree. Keeping fish in a subpar environment and half-a$$ing species requirements so you can keep inappropriate species together is cruel, and it's bad practice. It's also doing what you want versus what the fish require. That shows an unfortunate mix of conceit and stupidity.

I'm not surprised "Plippy" died, you probably don't do water changes either (and I'm sure your "friend" would agree with you that water changes are unnesscessary). People like you shouldn't own living things.

Sorry to be so brutal, but you asked for it.
 
I agree with and backup everyone else here 100%. Goldfish and tropicals do not belong together. But do what you want...I won't lose any sleep over it. My tanks are fine. :)
 
Betta-Bender said:
hello i have recently got a 29 gallon tank and in a week it will be going tropical

at the moment i have a goldfish in therecalled ploppy i have read all the jargon about 55 gallon tanks for one gold fish.
but my local fish breeder who used to work at the local aquarium said thats not the case at all and that ploppy is fine
i have known him for along time and respect his advice so now thats over with
i can get on with my question.

what other fish can i put with ploppy?
i have fluval 800 litres per hour filter
and will be getting a heater

i want to get
a pair of angelfish

a school of 7 medium sized tetras (could you reccomend a speicies?)

and a cory

any suggestions
acept i am definatly getting the angelfish :)

thanks
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Can you put a pair of angels in with Ploppy...Yes
Should you...Definately not (For all the reasons listed above)

Can you put tetras in with Ploppy...Yes
Should you...Definately not (For all the reasons listed above and they would eventually be an expensive lunch for Ploppy)

Can you listen to your friend the Breeder...Yes
Should you...Definately not (For all the reasons listed above)

Your friend can do all the things listed above but unfortunately these are not ideal conditions for the fish. If you don't care about the fish...Why are you asking for advice?
 
Betta-Bender said:
oh well thanks for your advice :)
however my local fish breeder keeps his goldfish with tropicals and says its fine to do so as long as you keep the temperature at a staedy compromise beetween tropical and cold water about 77 F.
he also bred and showed angelfish he has some gorgeous breeds there inculding some dwarfs i think i saw a lable saying :)

i had grown quite attached to ploppy
he was an adopted fish
his mate plippy who i also had, died of white spot :(

which i am treating with the appropriate medicen and they are clearing up now
just a little bit longer and he will be better.
i will have a think anyway
thank you for your input
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I'm sorry you didn't hear the advice you wanted. I will not reccomend anything for your tank because I think you would put them in inappropriate environments. I don't want to be responsible for the horrible life (too cold and misserable, too hot and misserable) or deaths of any fish. I therefor choose to simply state that I would not reccomend any type.

If you are truly so attached to Ploppy. Research proper goldfish care. Do everything you can do now for HIM. Give him the best most wonderful COLD WATER tank that you can afford. If that doesn't appeal to you and having a tropical tank (WARM WATER) is so important, take Ploppy back to the fish store where they will promptly plop Ploppy in the properly COLD WATER tank. Then proceed with a HEATER and tropicals of your choice.

I understand this friend of yours has some success doing things in the unorthodox manner, but trust me....it is NOT the best for the fish. People are funny that way. I truly feel that following the advice he has given you would be the even larger mistake. You have one fish "guy" telling you that it would all be fine with the mixture, only to be told by 8 other fish "guys" that it is completely inappropriate. You will make your choices, be it good or bad.

GD is right. Don't ask for advice if you know that you are not going to follow it. You knew it was wrong, we told you it was wrong, but claimed your friend has no problems (which I highly doubt he has the healthy fish he tells you) don't expect others to help you set up a bad situation.
 
Betta-Bender said:
they are just fish!
i woukld raather be more concerned about the childeren starving in africa than an animal with only half a nervous system and and a proven nine second memory!
GET YOUR PRIORITIES RIGHT
YOUR ALL NUTS!!!!
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With that attitude I seriously doubt you are concerned about the well being of anyone/anything other than yourself, TBH.
If they're just fish, then why waste your and our time by posting questions here?
 
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