what to use for painting stand black??
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Actually black latex won't due by itself.
Water-based paints (latex) won't bond to oil, lacquer, or shellac based surfaces well, throw in a glossy one at that, its going to scratch easily. You'll be able to scratch it easily with your fingernail, not to mention working around it while doing tank maintance or even carring grocery bags by it.
Oil can recoat oil or latex, latex can recoat latex (primers are a different story)
Being that the stand came from a company it was undoubtedly top-coated with an oil based polyurethane or varnish product.
Lightly sand the stand with a fine grit sandpaper, like 120-150 grit. You don't need to sand the clear coat off, just dull it and give the new paint a chance to bond.
Then you have two choices, latex or oil.
Oil will be easier, in the aspect of less steps and tends to level better then latex (less brush marks). But, more odor, longer drying time, and thinner is needed for clean up. If you can do it outside, I would go this route. Simply buy self-priming oil based paint, like Benjamin Moore's Metal & Wood Alkyd paint (product code C133 for high gloss or C163 for satin, which will match the sheen on most trim and cabinets). Two coats for coverage, better finish and durabillity.
And be sure to use a China Bristle brush with oil, white china is softer and will give a better finish, black is stiffer used for high production.
Latex tends to be more popular with DIY because lower odor, quicker drying and recoat, easier clean up, Its also cheaper due to rising oil prices. But you'll need a primer (latex) that will bond to an oil based substrate, use Zinsser 123 or Ben Moore's Fresh Start 023. One coat of primer then two coats of latex paint.
Poly/Nylon brush for latex paints.
Far as sheen, the higher the sheen, the more durabillity, but also will highlight imperfections, like nicks and dents, and doesn't touch-up as well.
Satin, or pearl, finish is most popular for furniture and cabinets, It has a little less sheen then semigloss.
Thats just my 2 cents, from managing a paint store for 5 years.
Water-based paints (latex) won't bond to oil, lacquer, or shellac based surfaces well, throw in a glossy one at that, its going to scratch easily. You'll be able to scratch it easily with your fingernail, not to mention working around it while doing tank maintance or even carring grocery bags by it.
Oil can recoat oil or latex, latex can recoat latex (primers are a different story)
Being that the stand came from a company it was undoubtedly top-coated with an oil based polyurethane or varnish product.
Lightly sand the stand with a fine grit sandpaper, like 120-150 grit. You don't need to sand the clear coat off, just dull it and give the new paint a chance to bond.
Then you have two choices, latex or oil.
Oil will be easier, in the aspect of less steps and tends to level better then latex (less brush marks). But, more odor, longer drying time, and thinner is needed for clean up. If you can do it outside, I would go this route. Simply buy self-priming oil based paint, like Benjamin Moore's Metal & Wood Alkyd paint (product code C133 for high gloss or C163 for satin, which will match the sheen on most trim and cabinets). Two coats for coverage, better finish and durabillity.
And be sure to use a China Bristle brush with oil, white china is softer and will give a better finish, black is stiffer used for high production.
Latex tends to be more popular with DIY because lower odor, quicker drying and recoat, easier clean up, Its also cheaper due to rising oil prices. But you'll need a primer (latex) that will bond to an oil based substrate, use Zinsser 123 or Ben Moore's Fresh Start 023. One coat of primer then two coats of latex paint.
Poly/Nylon brush for latex paints.
Far as sheen, the higher the sheen, the more durabillity, but also will highlight imperfections, like nicks and dents, and doesn't touch-up as well.
Satin, or pearl, finish is most popular for furniture and cabinets, It has a little less sheen then semigloss.
Thats just my 2 cents, from managing a paint store for 5 years.