Fishfriend jumps in head first without testing the temp of the water. AIH! Cold!
Just a quick counterpoint. If they had more power/tech over the animals they'd in turn likely have less respect, I don't think that they or any other less developed group of people are living symbiotically with animals for any benign purpose, they respect them because they have to for the sake of their own survival.
Yes, and that may actually be a smarter way of living, so to speak, because their world won't fall into pieces when the oil runs out and WW3 begins...
Murder is wrong because you have aright to determine your own life, and there can be no greater offense against one exercising that right than having someone take that life. No emotions necessary. I must admit that on many occasions the concept of might making right appeals to me. But then I calm down and realize that I don't have a right to dislocate every joint in some idiot's leg, just because he all but asked me to. Sadly when I was your age that wasn't the case. You still have time to get it right, but I fear the odds are getting longer. I'm still pulling for you!
*sigh* you are so certain of yourself you refuse to see the other view... Why does someone have the right to life? Why, besides that YOU think it's the "right" thing to do? Boom, emotions and opinions just won. Might doesn't make right, it just decudes how everyone lives... we choose our own right and wrong, and no one else should choose for you. However, thios is reality, and people will always force you do to things you may not want to do. Taxes, ham, who likes those? But the government (might) said "pay us taxes" so we pay them taxes. Might rules, always, whereas "Right" is for us as individuals to decide.
Bingo! It's only when people are not subject to the actualities of mere survival that they can forget which side their bread is buttered on, so to speak, and still manage to survive. In a primitive society stupid people rarely live very long.
In primitive society the strong live and the weak die. It doesn't matter what kind of strong you have, smarts, phycisal strength, willpower, convicning arguments, the strong always live longer in a primitive society. Only in "civilized" societies can the weak survive.
Bring them on, I'll be standing here with a12 gauge, a bottle of sweet baby rays, some A-1, and plenty of mashed potatos & Gravy! And when everyone else is busy starving, I'll be sitting over here burbing, and feeling full!
burping, not burbing
I would be sneaking over to your place for burgers
But you do admit to an emotional component?
EVERYTHING HAS AN EMOTIONAL COMPONENET! Humans are an emotional species, we can't do anything without emotion. It is a part of us, and always will be, so stop trying to ignore it.
yes, its a primitive society, but that doesnt make us better than them. us "modern" humans' immune systems have been devolving over the last few million years, since some caveman dropped a slab of mammoth meat into his fire, ate it, and said it tasted good. if every carnivore on earth ate cooked meat for 10 million years, they wouldn't be able to eat raw meat without threatening their health. those "stupid people" have a better chance of survival at the end of the world than we do, simply because they can do things we cant. the aliens in the movie Avatar win the war, and they are definitely primitive.
"modern" humans have only existed for 10 thousand years, but humanoids have existed for some time before that. Besides the timing error, I agree with you completely. Primitive societies are more stable and harder to destroy, if you will beleive that. Those cavemen weren't shooting bombs at each other or flying planes into buildings. They just hit eahc other with clubs instead.
What I will admit is that my emotions generally gel nicely with those values. However, I think the values stand on their own without emotion. In cases where my emotions are not in agreement with my values, I would hope that I would act with my values rather than emotions.
Now that's something I can get behind! Values and emotion are different things, though they foten influence each other, and as such can be looked at differently. People make laws off of their values and the values of society. Therefor it is the values of society, not the emotions, that dictates the laws of a society. Which pretty much unsays every argument I've been having with you, Subrosa.
