Why aquarium dabblers suck

Sorry for the double post, as a noob my posts are being delayed until moderator approval.

And just for clarification, I posted a link to the Cornell study so you may come to understand how people can by a fish, kill it in short term, and then learn nothing from the experience. Let me know if it helpful.
 
Thanks for the welcome. I was drawn to this fine forum because of a interesting thread created by deedeek on the topic of freshwater deep sand beds. I remained a lurker on this forum, mostly because I completely lack the social skills required by this subculture. So if you will forgive me, I will say what I need to say then quietly slip away. Just one last thing, mosquito larvae is a good source of nutrition, give the tank more time it will soon attract even more wildlife.


http://gagne.homedns.org/~tgagne/contrib/unskilled.html


Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One’s Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments
Justin Kruger and David Dunning
Department of Psychology
Cornell University


Abstract
People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.
Very cool concept. And don't quietly slip away. As fish people, many of us lack social skills of any nature! You fit right in
 
Very cool concept. And don't quietly slip away. As fish people, many of us lack social skills of any nature! You fit right in

I agree. For myself at least. I go out by myself and do things by myself because i lack the ability to trust anyone. But i do have good social skills and will openly talk to anyone.

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Very cool concept. And don't quietly slip away. As fish people, many of us lack social skills of any nature! You fit right in

Its time for a change. I can tell you first hand that behind closed doors the banks refer to "free checking" as "fee checking", and that pet stores will joke that the expected lifespan of a fish is "just long enough for the customer to be satisfied, than come back and buy another".

Forget the bank quote, I really don't want to go off on that tangent. For the pet stores however maybe they need and attitude adjustment, and maybe we can influence that.

I propose the following thought. "Give a man a fish and he will be a customer for a day, teach a man how to fish and he will be a customer for life."

If education is the key to helping the dabblers through the awkward killing stage, what can we do to help? Can we put together some basic handout material that can be given away? Direct dabblers to a website that clearly identifies the fundamentals without any confusion? What are your thoughts? Is there anything being used now that we know works?

While you giving that a think, check out my youtube video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pLOcviTGUs
 
One more thing...
If a mature biofilter is the key item needed to properly maintain an aquarium, why is it the only thing that pet stores do not supply? No wonder why people new to the hobby stumble on the learning curve, its riddled with obstacles.
 
This stuff works on a number of people, but even today I was shrugged off by a woman who either didn't believe me, or she just didn't want to know. Gave her a care sheet on the nitro cycle and gave multiple reasons why 3 goldfish and 2 pkaties weren't good in a 10 gallon. But she fell right into the category you referred to earlier.
 
She may see you only as a salesperson. From that perspective you don't stand a chance. Perhaps if you were to position yourself as a technician, she may let down her guard down long enough for you to slip in some vital information.

This women believes she has above average understanding on how to keep fish. Some stupid salesman is not going to be able to teach her nothing.

So not only do we need to educate them, but we must gain their trust so they will let us.
 
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Lol I talked her out of buying more fish. Maybe I'll try to smile more next time :) the bittersweet thing is when we get those few new people who actually try and are successful, they only come by the fish area when they're buying dog food. They tell me about their fish, but it isn't as often as it was when they were first starting.
 
Did the women come to the store to buy fish or was this an impulse buy while she was purchasing other items?

It's very serious merchandising that determines where products are placed in the store. Impulse items are always near the front of the store and near the register as necessary items are place at the back of the store. For example, Walmart stocks the milk is in the far back of the store, but snacks are at the register. If petsmart put the fish in the back of the store nobody would ever go back there, thus the chance for an impulse buy drops to none at all.

If it was an impulse buy, perhaps you could redirect her impulse buy, by throwing something bright and shiny over into another department and let somebody else deal with her.

But what if this was not an impulse buy? How do we begin the education process?
 
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