Wild Caught Fish

[~*LuvMyKribs*~]

I understand where people would argue for both sides here, being either against or for catching fish from the wild for captivity.
Countless species have been saved from extinction by being bred and raised in captivity. The list is long and growing everyday.
However, removing species from the wild disturbs the natural process of evolution and can help extinction of wild species.
BUT- in my mind, until we figure out how to repair all the damage we have done and are doing to the environment, I feel its all fair to remove fish from the wild and bred them in captivity under proper conditions. **While keeping the hope of someday down the road re-releasing thier kin into the wild in mind. **


This doesn't go just for fish- it goes for every species on earth. Conservation is becoming a very very critical issue that so many people are overlooking nowadays. Everyone is so up in arms about animals being kept in zoos, while their wild cousins are being hunted and deforested out of thier homes. If people want to complain about it then thats fine- but don't get mad at wild animals being kept in captivity until something serious is being done by those complainants to save thier wild sanctuary.


This isn't intended at anyone in particular its just my rant. I get really worked up about it all. :sad

 

[Dragon_Lord_Tia]

i saw a show the other day about the fish hand raised and released dugong his name was pig and he liked apples.

true story apart from the apples bit

 

[RTR]

Everyone can have any belief system they want. The issue arises when those belief systems are applied to fact and science and those who apply them believe that both beliefs and reality operate under the same rules, which is not the case.

So, you are saying that your judgement call on the question of wild capture is based on no information and knowledge beyond that available frrom the boob tube? Q.E.D.

 

[LMOUTHBASS]

wow

this is a fish forum you guys have to got to tone it down - how bout everyone stops trying to talk like they're prize winning scientists and n just relax ughhhhh i'm sick of people trying to act like their friggin brilliant on this website - share your info n thats that

 

[Dragon_Lord_Tia]

from what i understand some people think the people who go out and get the wild fish have no idea what their doing 1)as an idea sence 2)as and inpact to the ecosystem.

when they start catching fish in the hundreds of thousands then it becomes a problem.
people catch more fish out of creeks,dam,rivers etc every day(world wide) then they do in a year from say the 2 main rift lakes, amazon, and south,central american area.

when their is very few fish left in either one of those areas they can be bred back with alot of ease IMO.

 

[PumaWard]

Most wild caught fish are caught by a few locals in a primitive manner (I.E. nets with a 1-2' diameter). Fish being caught in this fashion will be able to reproduce faster than they are being taken from the wild. The people catching them are no more than a simple predetor to the fish, and have the same impact on the fish as a simple predetor.

I don't know how many of you have tried to catch fish in a river using a net (which, I would imagine, has rock formations similiar to that of the rift lakes... a lot of small holes and a lot of fast little fishies ) it's nearly impossible to catch them using a net... therefore, I can only imagine a small few of these fish are actually caught compared to those that get away.

I have read in several places that, in general, catching fish in the wild has very little impact on the wild fish populations.


As for my own opinion of wild caught fish vs. captive breed fish... I am indifferent. There are some species that I would prefer to have that were wild caught... guppies are one of them (the fish are not excessively inbred and are there for much more hardy compared to the one's at the lfs). There are other species that I would prefer captive breed, angelfish for example (hopefully less parasites, and cheaper). Then, there are some fish that I really don't care where they came from as long as they are healthy, J. transcriptus's for example.

There are some species, like cardinal tetras, which are extremely difficult to breed in the aquarium. To my knowledge, they are only annually caught in the wild, as a diliberate attempt to keep a healthy, stable wild population.

 

[Aquarius0015]

I am going to stop talking about religion/practices because it is getting off-topic and also a very personal issue that evokes strong emotional response.

I would also like to correct the impression that I base all of my decisions on television, although I realize how one could make such assumptions from the one sentence in my post. In reality, I also read newspapers, Newsweek, National Geographic (and I sometimes do watch the show which I do believe to be quite well done and informative), PETA newsletters (although vey infrequently I must admit), etc.

This discussion has been very informative to me, and I'm glad that people are taking such interest in it. I am going to do a bit of research on my own before making a final decision, but I want to thank everyone for trying to remove personal bias and explaining both sides fairly.

However before I leave for a holiday mini-trip, I really would like to know about the neons and the student projects. Thanks and have a happy xmas/chanukah/kwanzaa/solstice/whatever!