Would like more info on QT new fish

sushiray

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Per Lupin's sticky:

["6. Were the fish placed under quarantine period (minus the first batch from the point wherein the tank is ready to accommodate the inhabitants)?

Usually, with the first batch of stocks, we do not need to quarantine the fish as there is nothing else that may be infected by pathogens other than the first inhabitants themselves however in several cases, people assume, regardless of their resources, their fish are in perfect health conditions. They fail to realize even healthy specimens themselves can be disease carriers and eventually end up destroying even their current stocks from failure to quarantine the new arrivals.

It is always recommended to quarantine your new arrivals regardless of the circumstances. The choice is yours. If you prefer to protect your current stocks, then prepare a quarantine tank no less than five gallons in tank volume. Make sure the tank has ample space with a few decorations for the fish to seek refuge, heater and sponge filter. The tank does not need to have substrate for hygienic reasons. A quarantine tank itself is doable in the long run and can be run as a hospital tank or isolation tank (for aggressors). A minimum of four weeks is the suggested time frame when quarantining your stocks. It gives ample tank for the pathogens to set in thus enabling you to prevent them infiltrating your main tank and destroying the stocks in it."]

I am hoping I can get more specifics. So I would like to set up a 5 or 10gal QT/hospital tank, with heater & filter & airstone. If I were to get new fish, I would place them in, observe their condition, test water. But, do you recommend any meds at all, like some multi-tonic type? how about salt additions?

I am of the opinion now (unfortunately had to learn the hard way cuz I was just too anxious to get them in the tanks), getting any fish whether from LFS (for sure) or from reputable online sellers, I must QT. but I would like to add something as a preventative. I have read some meds can be used this way.

thks all.
 
The idea of a quarantine tank is to isolate those new fish from your main tank, just in case any new fish have some un-noticed Pox that may infest the rest of your tank. One Ich spot hidden in the gills of a new fish will infest the whole tank in a week.

So the idea is to set up a seperate tank, 10gal is usually fine unless you buy heaps of big fish. You drop the fish in there for a couple of weeks, if nothing bad happens, great, move to the main tank. If it breaks out with some sort of Pox, you can treat it in isolation. If the new fish dies you can Nuke the tank as set it up again.

The trick is to keep the Q tank cycled and safe for the new fish. If your Q tank isn't cycled and running smoothly, then it's not safe enviroment for your new fish. They may suffer from ammonia poisoning or stress from un-needed medications.

Keeping a couple of snails or 'crash test dummy' fish in the tank to maintain it's cycle isn't a bad idea.

But you should not be treating the tank with anything, unless you have a specific disease you have identified. 99% of the time the fish you buy will be healthy, you just need to gaurd against that 1%. If you buy enough fish, eventually you will get that 1% one with the Pox, hence the whole Q tank idea.

Ian
 
No need to treat unless you know what you are treating.

No need to keep a QT cycled when not in use..just do water changes. Most experienced hobbyists maintain extra sponges in running tanks to help establish a QT to minimize water changes required.
 
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thx folks. on the idea of keeping sponges in a running tank - so I have one now, I should put another in? then if I need a QT tank to start, move one out? but I must know the timing of when I want to buy/add fish in order to start cycling, right?

& once I move the cycled sponge into the QT tank, I should have some crash test dummy fish CTD's & hope they don't have anything?

then see how those CTD do, then if ok buy the new fish, place in QT tank, observe them for how long (some say 4-6wks?)

then if all ok move the new fish into the main tank, keep the CTD's there for future additions/sickies to be added?!

what a vicious "cycle"!!
 
just move the extra sponges over to the QT tank and add your new fish to it. Monitor and do water changes as necessary until the QT period is over....then put fish in the tank of your choice and return the sponges to your operating tank.
 
They already said it. However, if you are QTing a puffer fish, it is usually best to treat for IPs immediately as they are known for having trouble with IPs (most are wild caught), and they need to be treated while they are still eating and seem somewhat healthy.

If you are QTing some other fish, I would simply observe and do good water changes and only treat if you see signs of disease and then confirm what disease it is so that you can treat properly. Generally, it's better to just do water changes and observe rather than treat at any sign of disease since that can create "superbugs" which are hard to get rid of.
 
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