would you call this a frag!!!!!!

ok heres an update; free coral from ebay seller came today no idea what it is !
there is some kinda finger thing and about 6 polyp things lol better than nothing!
no heat pack once again so will have to see if they survive!
was no warning it was coming once again! i nearly missed postman too!!!
my scallop still alive so far!
 
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its not the same coral so not sure sorry
 
Looks like a mushroom (unless your talking about the white dots, then they are zoas when they open) and some type of finger leather, both cheap and easy to propogate. There is a reason they gave these to you free, they probably had a ton to spare. I would still feel cheated even with those freebies.
 
marinemad -- A bit off topic, but what kind of sand is that in your tank? It looks like a bunch of tiny spheres -- kind of like Dippin' Dots ice cream. :)

Looks like you got a frag of zoas and, well... Something I can't really make out. Is the second frag a stony coral? The pic is a little blurry, but it almost looks like some kind of branching SPS frag to me.
 
There is a problem using dippin' dots? I thought that was a great way to keep the tank cool during the warm days. ;)

And ya, under further review, it does look more like a sps coral by looking at the cut branch (white area) at the bottom of the coral. Leathers don't do that when cut. Is it hard like a rock to the touch or is it soft and goey when you put it in? If it is an SPS coral it is severely browned out, while not terrible, it is still alive, it is not the ideal look you want unless it is a brown SPS coral. Just know, SPS corals require high light for the most part and very very clean water, zeros across the board on Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates, Phosphates, Silicates, and high CA (420+) and Mg (1300+) levels. The addition of iodide and strontium suppliments really help as well. I wouldn't go out of your way to make the levels ideal if your not at that point in reefkeeping though. I know it took me a good 6 years of experience before I was ready to commit to that level of water quality and maintenance.
 
its hard to touch.
ty for all the advice guys!
the sand i dont know!! its more kinda small tiny stones than sand i would say!
the scallop still alive so far and doing well the ony problem i ever have is with zoas !
no idea why but they never seem to do just as well as everything else in tank!
my elegance coral looks great i even got a small flower pot coral that was nearly dead when i got it but now really pretty!
any ideas?
i do dose trace elements , calcuim, and few drops of iodine, i feed coral gro and liquid filter feed, i use sea water which i know there are mixed opinions about but my water quality is pretty good i think.
well everything else in the tank is thriving so must be doing something ok
 
You should accept the $15 frag and end the negative feedback.
You are forgetting that this is as much your fault as the sellers.
I am completely serious too, before the rebuttals begin I will explain.

1. You chose to buy Online.
No matter what every purchase of livestock Online is a risk. Too many things can go wrong! Shipments get delayed, shipments aren't packed right(heatpacks?), deliveries come unannounced, substitutions take place(swap corals for what you ordered), corals come dead(arguments about how it left alive ensue), and on and on and on!

2. If the coral is not a WYSIWYG, then you gambled again. Anything that is not sold as WYSIWYG is subjective to the sellers idea of what they are selling as fair. Just because you got something smaller than you expected does not mean the seller was being deceitful.

3. The seller tried to make amends. He sent the flame scallop for 2 reasons. 1, it was going to die in his tank anyway and 2, he was doing PR for the late delivery.

4. After you disputed your sale/purchase(which you have every right to do), he offered another peace offering. He is trying to comply with you.

Are sellers scamming with their ads? Sure they are.
Do you as a buyer have to assume that you are taking a chance when purchasing such items? YES you do.

To rectify, use popular sources for your coral purchases and only buy WYSIWYG items or have the seller email you a pic before you purchase.
If you are trying to win bids for the cheapest price, then you get what you pay for.

My point is you have to be aware of sellers and expect less than optimal service from sellers who are not commercial entities.

I hate to not be on your side, but you have a shared responsibility in this debacle.
 
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