WTF is going on??

The auction is what I have been waiting for to see if they have any good angels. I have been tempted by petsmart to buy a couple but decided against it. I need to get rid of a few fish first anyway since my boyfriend WAY overstocked our tank. I am just leery of giving fish back to any LFS cause I am afraid of who will end up with them LOL.
 
I need to post an ad for it. Maybe I'll start a seperate thread. Are you in one of clubs, either tricounty or the one in pekin? The auction is April 8th..

and if not..want to be? Always looking for new members.
 
nursie said:
I need to post an ad for it. Maybe I'll start a seperate thread. Are you in one of clubs, either tricounty or the one in pekin? The auction is April 8th..

and if not..want to be? Always looking for new members.
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I'm not in any clubs right now, but maybe in the future I might be able to do that. I just dont have ANY spare time these days. I really wish I did though. I have found that I enjoy my stupid fish tank much more than I ever thought possible. ;)
 
nursie said:
I may not have acclimated either fish from the pet store long enough.
the other thing..I'm not sure if my heater is working. My thermometer says the water in in low 80's...I checked to see if the thermometer is good, it's one of thise glass floaty ones. It seems ok, but the tank seems cool when I put my hands in it, and i never see teh indicatir light on. Would that have contributed this problem?
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These would be my guess. Have you gotten a new thermometer and checked the temp? If your water is truly in the 80's it could be 10 degrees or even more warmer than the water the fish are in (the bag probably start in the low 70's, and it's not very warm out right now so it can cool down a bit in transit). That can be a shock to some fish, especially fish from a lfs with poor quality stock. I see you have a quarantine tank. Why didn't your new arrivals go in there, especially since they were from a lfs you didn't trust?

That two and a half hour drive to Champaign is looking better and better, isn't it? I just drove an hour up to Milwaukee this weekend to get fish because there is no decent lfs for freshwater near me.
 
EcoPit said:
Why didn't your new arrivals go in there, especially since they were from a lfs you didn't trust?

That two and a half hour drive to Champaign is looking better and better, isn't it?
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I already have fish in the Q tank...since I only had 1 kuhli left...I went ahead with using the 75. Too eager. duh.
You are right....Sailfin may be the place to go for what I'm looking for anyway.
 
well through the process of my pleco adventure i changed my method a bit

i use a rubermaid container that i use only for fishy stuff

pour new fish and water into the container and then pour out most of the water that they came in

here's where the change is

i used to set them on the floor and run some airline tubing form the tank they're going into to the container- then i start a siphon and kink the tubing until the flow was a steading drip- this still works great as long as your room temp is close to your tank temp

(i brought the plecos home during one of the coldest 2 weeks of the winter here in MN so the room was colder than the tank- bad move)

now what i do is put the container into the tank, keeping the top above the waterline so the LFS water doesn't get in my tank

b/c it's at the same level as the tank my airline tubing doesn't work so i simply add a spash of tank water every couple minutes for 1/2 hour to an hour

i also turn the lights off and lowwer the hood back over if i leave the room

the last fish i acclimated jumped out of the container after 5 min- if the hood hadn't been down he might not have landed safely in the tank (that acclimation was rather shorter than i'd planned being that he was a more expensive black roundtail betta-but all well)

once i think they've waited long enough i dump the contents of the container through my fish net into a bucket and then put the netted fish into the tank

hope that helps!
 
I've had luck acclimating this way:

1. bring home fish, wash the outside of the baggies they came in with room temperature water.
2. then I'll set them in the tank I am putting them into and let sit for 15-20 minutes.
3. then open the top of the bag, and using one of those small bathroom paper cups dish 3-4 scoops out of the bag and into a waiting bucket. then put 3-4 scoops of tank water in the bag.
4. repeat this (step 3) every 7+/- minutes for about a half hour.
5. then net the fish out of the bag and put them in the tank and dump the bag water into the bucket....

I usually take about 45 minutes to an hour to make sure I add tank water nice and gradual-like ;) years ago when i first got into fish I used to dump the LFS water into the tank with the fish but have since learned not to do that ;)
 
When I first added fish to my 55 I just put them straight in because I figured there were no other fish to infect. Someone had ich though, and I couldn't get them all out, so I had to treat them in the display tank. I was not happy salting a planted tank, so now all my fish go in the quarantine tank. If it's full, then I can't get new fish. I totally empathize with the eagerness though--I have trouble leaving them in the qt for the full 30 days.
 
Aclimation

Learned this method years ago from a very successful aquarist. Use a large (4 letre) plastic juice container. Make sure the container is appropriately clean. Put the new fish in the container with as little of the store water as you can get away with. Start a syphon using airline tubing with a shut off valve in line. Once the syphone starts turn the inline shut off down so that there is just a slow drip. Let go until the container is just about full. Should take at least half an hour (the longer the better). Gently pour the newbies into their new home. This process takes quite a bit of time
 
nursie said:
THere was no white mucus that I noticed in the water, but the 2 dead kuhlis were ****ish. One kuhli did live...would he be immune to the toxins from the other kuhlis?
Is this an automatic release of toxin at death? would they release it if in distress?
This would explain why both plecs diec within hours of being put in the tank

What about my driftwood? Would it being releasing anything? I would think not, the kuhlis were ok for a week.
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I would think that the kuhli loach would be immune to it's own toxins.

It would release the toxins when distressed, not automatically at death.
If it was a clown loach you'd definately smell the toxin (it has a terrible dirty sock smell), but I'm not sure though about kuhli's.

If you didn't see any mucus or smell anything stinky, then I doubt that the problem has anything to do with loach toxins.

Whether or not the Kuhli's died from chlorine is the big question. I don't think so because 1 kuhli lived and the others didn't. Maybe chlorine or plants being rooted stressed the kuhli, it released toxins, then the toxins killed the other 2 kuhli's? The toxic mucus could of gotten sucked into the filter, which is why you didn't see it. Maybe kuhli toxins don't stink either.

Like I said, this is just speculation. I'm probably completely wrong.
 
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