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sky.eyes.woman

I'd rather be in Hockeytown!
Dec 6, 2004
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I'm sitting here looking at an empty 55 gallon tank that I want to fill badly, it's been here for a couple of months while I was getting a piece of new equipment for it each week as I am on a tight budget. Short background on it, it's a used tank I bought for $75 with stand, it does not leak AFAIK since I helped the guy who sold it to me tear it down. His hoods were broken, so I got new ones, I've been wondering what the guy cleaned the glass on the inside with since it's scratched pretty bad in a few places...is there any way to buff the glass or something? Also, he threw in his UG filter with it and I'd like to use it, but I only want to put one powerhead on it. What's the problem with that, you ask? The plate is in two pieces and one powerhead + two plates = less than full coverage. I'm thinking of cutting off one side of each plate with a Dremel and overlapping them, sort making it into one plate. You guys think that will work? I'm getting ready to just say screw it and go without the UG plate, but I'm going to put goldfish in it and I might want to have it. Thoughts, ideas and suggestions will be much appreciated!
 
There is not alot you can do with small scratches and if it is empty, the scratches will look worse than they really are , unless they are really big that is, once the water goes in you probably wont notice them. Can you covert that UGF to a reverseUGF, Ime they are much better than your normall UGF. The plate idea should work if I am understanding you correctly. As for fish it is up to you. ;)
 
I would say dont worry about the UGF. I think they are terrible and just let stuff sit under the plates that cant be gravel vac'd out. A friend of mine had a UGF that i took out and there was waste and food caked on the bottom of his tank. Needless to say his ammonia levels were through the roof. My gravel vac couldnt get to it until i finally just told him to take them out.

If you keep up with your water changes and gravel vacs you would be fine. I dont think UGF really provide much of any kind of filtration other thank water circulation and moving waste and food up.(someone please correct me if im wrong).

Get a HOB filter if your on a tight budget. You can get a reasonable one for a decent price.
 
I would say dont worry about the UGF. I think they are terrible and just let stuff sit under the plates that cant be gravel vac'd out. A friend of mine had a UGF that i took out and there was waste and food caked on the bottom of his tank. Needless to say his ammonia levels were through the roof. My gravel vac couldnt get to it until i finally just told him to take them out.
If you keep up with your water changes and gravel vacs you would be fine. I dont think UGF really provide much of any kind of filtration other thank water circulation and moving waste and food up.(someone please correct me if im wrong).

UGF's are still one of the best if not the best all around bio-filter available.
They are inexpensive, have no special requirements beyond maintenance, if set up correctly they are silent, and move large amounts of water with little "felt current" on the tank. However: If not properly maintained they will plug. they do not plug as quickly as most other filters, but eventually they will cause a problem if they don't get proper maintenance.
Conventional flow UGf requres dilligent gravel vaccuming but then so does any tank that isn't heavily planted so it really doesn't add maintenance. RFUG (reverse flow undergravel ) is really about as maintenance free as any filter could be. With RFUG you reverse the flow, and put a sponge filter on the pwerhead to keep it from putting any mulm under the plates. the only real maintenance is the cleaning/ changing of the sponges. RFUG greatly reduces the need to vaccum your gravel.


Now as far as using one powerhead on a 55, I personally wouldn't do it, but I don't know that it would cause you trouble. The key would be what size powerhead and where you intend to locate it in the tank. The reason for the split plates ( aside from easier installation) is that UGF RFUG both work better with even flow, and the split plates require multiple sources of water flow this keeps all areas under the plate more even in water movement. If you go with one powerhead only, I would put it somewhere near center and make sure it's a pretty good size powerhead. My personal experience is that higher flow works better with UGF, but the verdict is still out on how much better. Additionally as mentioned above and mentioned by AshDavid, RFUG is far superior and will make for a nicer tank. Penguin is IMO the best powerhead for RFUG set-ups, and they have a ready made kit ( 7 or 8 dollars) that will give you the sponge you need for the reverse flow set-up.

Feel free to PM me if you need more details or info on undergravels. I haven't had a tank for many years without one and hove no intention of ever running a tank without one again. dollar for dollar there is nothing that works as well.
dave
 
Sorry I forgot some important details, guys! It was late and I was tired...I have an Aquaclear 802 powerhead that pumps 400gph, it was the biggest I could get at my store except for an 1100gph model that was just too much money. I have an Aquaclear 70 HOB filter and I will also be adding another soon. I do not put live plants in any of my tanks as I am highly paranoid of getting a snail infestation. Now my husband is practically pushing me out the door so I better go! Be back soon! Thanks!
 
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