Zombies -- Mafia #11

[OgreMkV]

I wasn't on you, I just wanted to know why we were so all out not to waste votes on the game where we were innocents together and now we're looking to vote for people who won't be here after the night. I see your probability scale and it makes sense. I'm just confused by it because every night we don't vote for a zombie means another night we lose a townie and have to work harder for another day. With this theory in mind after about 6 days we'll have six zombies, some who will be extrememly hard to figure out. We also have green slime to worry about and a mutant with vials that can add even more confusion...I just happened to like the idea of going after zombies as early as possible. Our theories on how to win this just happen to be different. You'd rather let players slip away to the other team, secretly, whereas if I'm going to lose players I'd rather have no chance of them turning on us and helping the zombies win. After some of the stuff that happened in BioBadlands that allowed them to win, I get leary of the effects of random variables that will come up down the road when the zombies have built a hefty team. I'd like som discussion about that to clear up how we plan to deal with that.

DUDE! They don't need a hefty team. (This is the reason I keep saying this LadyG.) THE ZOMBIES CAN WIN ON NIGHT THREE. That's the one after this one. There isn't a build up. There isn't time. We must hit a zombie today or tomorrow. That's it. That's all there is.

Sure it gives us a lynch of DC for the next day and then we need to find who was turned. Well maybe 2 because they could get another turn.

hmm... I wasn't thinking Deputy Chief, I was thinking more LadyG and you.

Are you telling me that none of the evidence presented on JL or DC makes you suspicious of them?

To be honest, I'm skeptical of John (he is on my list), but (and this is my poor memory talking here) I don't recall seeing any evidence against DC today. There was some talk of DC yesterday... but not much.

Maybe I haven't been focused on him like some have. I've been concentrating on posting for and against the things that I've seen today, like your defense of DD and LadyG, and the relatively sudden (and coordinated) onslaught of John.

Are you the turn? I hope not because up until that post you were making good sense.

So if I don't agree with you, then I'm the turn? Personally, I think it much more likely you're the turn, my undead friend. All of a sudden, you're very chummy with DD and LadyG. It's very disturbing

 

[IceH2O]

Its possible I could be wrong about you, I'll admit that but you and JL have so many thoughts in common its hard to over look.

If I were to take you off my list it would be JL and DD and then I'd have to find a turn which at this point I'd lean more towards Ogre. I don't see his logic on how I'm intertwined with DD.

DD was after him and Ewurm as far as I can tell looking through the posts earlier. Both I have as innocents till his last post pushed him a step closer to evil.

 

[Madcrawdad]

I wouldn't pull off DD so fast.

Her post on Ewurm seems to convenient. Its a (I'm going to use that word lol ) weak case at best. An easy target to make her look townie until the vote came down. Not necessarily a lynch vote getter as we're all wrong about someone but it does its job. Leaves us down a townie. I agree with your assessment that ewurm is a somewhat 'easy' target. Most of DD's post seems to regurgitate other's sentiments that were already posted at the time.....Almost looks like a quick attempt to look helpful, and it was a really easy case to pull together.
I don't think Ewurm is evil, it doesn't feel like it, yet.

As I read Ogres post and thought about it its true that just because they didn't attack me doesn't make them innocent. But I believe LG is innocent and the reason DD didn't attack me is the fact that JL and DC are already on me. No reason to throw number 3 and have them all looked at. Thats why DC vote is on LG but throwing accusations my way.

Would also be a good reason why DD knows LG is innocent.
As would I. It concerns me, though, that in post 374 you said that Ogre, Swayde, and I were WAY off base w/ regard to DD. I believe that you said DD had said nothing, up to that point, that made you think that she was anything but innocent....By that point, however, she did come straight out and say that Lady G IS innocent. Just wondering why it's of interest now, and not before?
My revised zombie list is

JL
DC
DD

Ice, my thoughts above in blue.

 

[IceH2O]

DUDE! They don't need a hefty team. (This is the reason I keep saying this LadyG.) THE ZOMBIES CAN WIN ON NIGHT THREE. That's the one after this one. There isn't a build up. There isn't time. We must hit a zombie today or tomorrow. That's it. That's all there is.



So if I don't agree with you, then I'm the turn? Personally, I think it much more likely you're the turn, my undead friend. All of a sudden, you're very chummy with DD and LadyG. It's very disturbing

Are you skimming or is it to hard to read when one of your eyes has been plucked out by vultures?

Post 387 explains my change of feelings on DD.

I no longer consider her innocent after thinking about what you said about not attacking me. I do think LG is innocent though.

 

[Lady G]

I have go for now, have kids to get to bed..dishes to do and a couple other things...I will post more later.

 

[johnlarson66]

A general question:

If I am found to be a zombie, then who are you going to vote for?

My answer is DC and Ogre​

If I am found to be innocent, then who are you going to vote for?

My answer is Ice, Ewurm and Lady G​

 

[IceH2O]

Ice, my thoughts above in blue.

Post 387 explains it.

I was looking for reasons to back up my claim on Sway when DD posted the Ewurm attack.

After I found nothing to determine Sway being turned I saw DDs post. That coupled with what Ogres post about her not attacking me clicked and I figured out why she didn't attack me.

Post 387 explains it well enough I think.

 

[DeputyChiefJR]

I see your point. But they won't get a turn every night. They only have a 50/50 chance from Day 3 on. I posted above that maybe 2 but I was thinking a day ahead so there will be 2 turned.

The mutant takes out 1 and changes 2, I don't really like that unless we know for sure we are getting 2 evils to good but its something we need to work on. Remember last game once they got some numbers how easy it was for us to pick them out? The only reason we lost was because you were killed off by the lab worker. Losing 2 power roles in one night lost us the game, they didn't beat us.

People don't just slip to the other team. If they were players hard on the zombies tails then all of a sudden change their tune and start protecting them its a give away. We just need to watch the posting.

I'm gonna trust you on this, but if the mutant kills the bodyguard or the sheriff I'm gonna get a bit peeved. Right now I do have a list, I'm sure no one's gonna put any stock in it but it's just impressions I've gotten over the game:

Lady G - I'm still quite bothered about her. She seems to be investigative, but manipulative of the game at the same time. There's a lot of moments where it seems like she feels we should believe what she's saying without question.

BKW - Quiet, usually is. This played out EXTREMELY well for him when he was the doc, even though he came after a few people strongly that game.

DD - Was definite that Lady G was innocent. Even she's too smart to make a blunder like that and then backpedals saying she has a headcold or something. Though some team-ups aren't bad in this game EVERYONE knows not to say you're definite on anyone's innocence.

Jpappy - No definite evidence but give the appearance of going through the steps to "look" innocent. Pops up, gives some lists with no major explanations, pokes a few people and then becomes busy when questions are asked. By the time he comes back people have overlooked what was said.

Ewurm - Cryptic, but always is.

 

[IceH2O]

A general question:

If I am found to be a zombie, then who are you going to vote for?

My answer is DC and Ogre​

Why didn't you include DD on that list? DC could be telling the truth, and Ogre might not have been the turn.

If I am found to be innocent, then who are you going to vote for?

My answer is Ice, Ewurm and Lady G​

Fair enough but I know I'm innocent and why did you leave Coler off?

Alright I have to hit the bed, late start tomorrow so I should be able to answer some questions in the morning if there are any.

 

[OgreMkV]

Are you skimming or is it to hard to read when one of your eyes has been plucked out by vultures?

Post 387 explains my change of feelings on DD.

I no longer consider her innocent after thinking about what you said about not attacking me. I do think LG is innocent though.

I'm not talking about DD... I read that one. I'm talking about the evidence (and/or) lack thereof of DeputyChief...

Nice attack on me to try and divert attention though.

More and more it's looking to me like a DD led, Ice turn, zombie team from hell, with LadyG playing the emmy winning 'best supporting zombie' role.