Zombies -- Mafia #11

What is up with everyoe using the word "weak"?
Nothing really to add to this post just wanted to say: LOL, I think "weak" is the word of the game! It seems each game there is a word that everyone latchs on to and uses the rest of the game "clusters" in one game, I don't remember the others but it seems to always happen.:grinyes:

As I said not point to this post just chuckled when I read that and it just overwhelmed me to post about it:)

//Game off//
While on on a "off topic" subject I thought I'd mention to RB..Hey you know I bought a canister filter from you once here at AC, would of been close to a year ago I guess, I had to go to my storage unit to get some stuff out of it earlier today and I was getting my 75 and accories when I came across a box that had "Bob Bishop" on it, never realized I got it from you before now. Thanks BTW.
//Game on//
 
LadyG, If I understand what you're asking....Technically, the nightly choices of the various powers go in AFTER nightfall. The doc can't protect against a ynching so there's no real issue.

The one time I was the doc, I would send in two choices to the ref, if one got lynched, then the other was protected.

I'm not sure how we could use that to our advantage because the doc's role depends on the bad guys and what they do... sometimes they act logically and sometimes they don't.

I guess I'm just a little confused about how it all works.
 
well, I hate leaving when ppl are actually posting..but I have to get going it will be later before I'm able to get back on after 7-8. Come on guys we really need to get some more thoughts out, I do not want to loose another innocent. Yes I realize CS was going to die no matter what, so just in case someone wanted to read into that I just mean I DON'T WANT TO LOOSE ANOTHER INNOCENT.
 
Here is a part of a post that has not been answered -



Ice, whose company on me did you not like?

Why did you not vote for them?

To refresh your memory, Mad has created a recap of the votes:



So on me at the time of your change was ewurm and Lady G. Why no did you not like their company? Which one did you not like? Was it both?

Your list of three that you would turn that you said is four, but listed 5 names is:

BKW
JL
Sway
ewurm
jpap

Ice, you are the one that saved me, but you think I am already a Zombie, but it was you that swung it from me to CS.

I've already said in post 301 I wanted to also give you another day and see if you helped us. If you are zombie I'd kick my own *** for pulling off of you. So you better not be, but I'll be watching you for the next 48 hours. Don't climb into a hole and hide either or I'll send in my bloodhounds to drag you out.


I'm not sure of anything on Day 1, the only people that can be sure are the zombies.True you were no real help to the town, but you play that way a lot. My problem with you is that you claimed to not see anything that could be construed as zombie behavior at all. Nothing to discuss.

What is up with everyoe using the word "weak"?

My suspect list is just as good as anyone elses.

I am still not buying the "let's lynch someone that was already dying, atleast they are not a power role" tatic.

This has been discussed and discouraged in other games. Just like voting for no one, it hurts the town. For the three of you to do that within the last 2 hours, seems odd to me.

This game is different, if there were 4 zombies to hit I'd take the chance, be it small, but with only 2 zombies the chances were almost nil. The reason Rb put you can't vote no one on day 1 was because its a safe vote, we lose 1 less innocent.

Plus, Ice, you think I am a zombie, but you saved me. This I do not understand. If I read it right, you voted for CS for two reasons, one DC was against it and he is a zombie so you were for it and two, if CS was going to die for not voting, most likely he was not a power role or a zombie, but it was better than voting for an unknown player that could be innocent or a power role.

I never said any of that lol. I voted for Charlie because we were going to lose him anyway. I don't understand why someone would be willing to lose 5 innocents in one night when we could lose just 4 instead. Seems anti town to me that you'd want more innocents gone. I already answered the post about thinking you a zombie earlier in the thread.

If you think I am a zombie, then vote for me. There are plenty others that agree. But to post that I am a zombie and then save me makes no sense.

Even if it was not me, this is odd. How come no one else has seen this or posted about it?

Well my point about posting and not voting can apply to KOTD also. I thought he had posted that picture in the sign up thread and had not posted here yet.

What I am saying is if you are going to post, you might as well vote. You can always change your vote. There are more of a good reasons to vote early than to vote late.

Also, I think a vote makes one seem more commited than just tossing out a name and letting others vote.

Speak up and be heard by voting!

Finally I agree with you on something.

First, if you place a vote and are unable to change it, that is better than not posting a vote and being unable to change it. No voters are killed in this game. It makes perfect sense to vote early.

So yes, voting early with no info (but there is info, from who died and who did not die and who voted for who, ect). I get slammed for saying there is no real info on day one, but day two is full of info. Full of what we learned on day one.

So I am not dropping the subject because I see something to be learned.

A wrong vote for a player that was going to die anyway is better than a wrong vote for someone that was playing, ONLY if the person playing is bad or the person voting is bad. The town would learn something from the death of the person playing, not from the death of the players that were gonna die anyway.

Was CS death his own fault or Ice from swaying from me to CS. How is this good for the town. What really has me concerned is that Ice has said he thinks I am a zombie, so why not lynch me when he had the chance?

So this is why I keep harping about this. It does not make any sense.

If you had read post 301 then maybe you wouldn't have to harp on it as much.

Charlies death was going to happen, I voted Charlie as its a safe town vote. We prevent the zombies from getting better numbers against us. Instead of being down 5 players we're only down 4 players.
I'd like to think you just don't understand the strategy is different in a build them up type set up.

2 out of 15 evil is a 13 % chance at hitting a zombie.

4 of the 15 are power roles 27 % chance at hitting them

13 of the 15 are innocent. 87% chance at hitting one.

3 of the 15 are dying that night. 100 % chance they are dying anyway.

Now the odds are still against us but now there are 3 which makes it a little easier to see them play off one another. Instead of being down a quite possible 5 we are only down 4.

If you're innocent and we lynched you then we'd be down 5 and out a good player. If you're zombie I hate myself for pulling off because we'd be down 4 innocents but the zombies would be still be at 2. But I had no real case against you except the failure to help on Day 1.

I just looked at JLs posts that mentioned me. I skimmed the rest of the thread. I'll have to go back and re read before I make any decisions. I tried to read them but my son is sick and his constant calling me made it hard to concentrate. Time for some knock out medicine lol.

I'll grab something to eat and be back with what I got from todays activities.
 
well, I hate leaving when ppl are actually posting..but I have to get going it will be later before I'm able to get back on after 7-8. Come on guys we really need to get some more thoughts out, I do not want to loose another innocent. Yes I realize CS was going to die no matter what, so just in case someone wanted to read into that I just mean I DON'T WANT TO LOOSE ANOTHER INNOCENT.

Who did Lady G vote for?
 
thru post 365...

to lynch....

DD (1) by ogre 321

ice (1) by jl66 270

ogre (1) by coler 313

lady (1) by DC 257

4 of 12 voting.....

no votes from jpap, DD, bkw, sway, ice, mad, ewurm, lady

Night fall at 8 PM EST Wednesday, 09/26...
 
If they weren't dying an untimely death then voting for Charlie was wrong.

Rule clarification please?


Even if one was turned the zombies shouldn't get them either. We were going to lose them for not voting so it doesn't seem fair that they would get them either.

If I was a zombie why would I be so upset that they untimely deaths didn't occur at this time and would be wrong if the zombies did in fact get one of the 3?

Based on what is posted above, my top three are:

jpappy789
Swayde
IceH2O

While they kept me in the game for another day, they also conducted a late in the day swing for a player that was most likely going to die for not voting. Even thou other players had not voted, they focused on CS. I am grateful to them for keeping me in the game, but I am not happy that they lynched an innocent and voted for someone that was going to be killed anyway.

I vote to lynch IceH2O

He went away from his own logic. Mostly in belief that DC is a zombie. I really do not see the case against DC and would like to see his.

This is the list that I find weak. 1st of all there are only 2 zombies but you name 3 players because of the votes for Charlie. 1st you left Ogre off that list, there were 4 people on Charlie.

2ndly it would be stupid for the only 2 zombies to jump together on an innocent that is going home anyway when they could have taken out a 5th innocent pretty easily. IMO this makes Jpap and Sway innocent in my eyes along with myself. Zombies wouldn't take out someone going home.


I had to get that in as I saw it while rereading the posts. I'll be back with more in a few.
 
I'm going to go ahead and vote now. I vote to lynch Dangerdoll. She's my top suspect and I've already posted why. It's not because of the lack of posting due to whatever RL reasons there may be, it's because what she does post seems to be giving off an evil vibe to me and also I think she's a highly likely turn candidate. Since we do have over 24 hours left this vote is subject to change if events and evidence warrant a change. I am keeping Ewurm. Bkw and JL as being suspicious to me. I am not so concerned with Coler as I was earlier. Everyone else I believe are innocent and not as likely to have been turned yet.
 
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