Zombies -- Mafia #11

[DeputyChiefJR]

Ok so I'm home and gonna try to clear up some things:

To JL's comment on BKW, I meant when he was the evil doc in BioBadlands....I just realized I didn't make that clear as I was typing it.

As to my play style this game, I'm trying to use an HN approach. I've had a hunch about someone this whole game and I decided to stick with it. I found that when I was evil in other games the constant pressure eventually panicked me. Also I often had a feeling HN was probably innocent. If hit, it was certain that person receiving the vote was probably crooked. Maybe I'm off on my assumption, but I'm willing to try it. Not sure how I've been 'anti-town' since I've been saying when I'm on how I'm trying to work toward winning for the town. I rationalized back and forth my reasons with Ice on votes and probabilities in the first few nights.

I stick with my original list. I called DD and I think I have some other good choices on my list.

 

[Swayde]

Have you guys actually done a search to pull up all of DC's posts and read them in order from his first post to his last? I really think he's a very good candidate for Mr. Evil.

 

[Swayde]

I tried to convince the town to go after someone who was talking...Everyone said I was so wrong and that we'd be better off after this vote. For all we know they could ahve the seer or the hunter now and all we did was eliminate an innocent who hadn't said a word...I get tired of these post count votes or the ones on people who haven't shown up. Some of the best players are evil and know how to tlk it up like everyone else....I want to try and lynch someone evil this next night....

This just sounds so anti-town...he doesn't even have the right roles listed.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Sorry I was on the phone while trying to put that post together. The point was supposed to be that though he thinks I'm a zombie he sure does follow me a lot.

I thought that his vote changes seemed pretty random, but it does look like he may have been doing a little bit of following.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Ok so I'm home and gonna try to clear up some things:

To JL's comment on BKW, I meant when he was the evil doc in BioBadlands....I just realized I didn't make that clear as I was typing it.

As to my play style this game, I'm trying to use an HN approach. I've had a hunch about someone this whole game and I decided to stick with it. I found that when I was evil in other games the constant pressure eventually panicked me. Also I often had a feeling HN was probably innocent. If hit, it was certain that person receiving the vote was probably crooked. Maybe I'm off on my assumption, but I'm willing to try it. Not sure how I've been 'anti-town' since I've been saying when I'm on how I'm trying to work toward winning for the town. I rationalized back and forth my reasons with Ice on votes and probabilities in the first few nights.

I stick with my original list. I called DD and I think I have some other good choices on my list.

Are you talking about Hooked Newbie (HN)? I'm unclear what the part of your post means (bolded - see above) re: HN being innocent?

 

[Lady G]

Ok, guy's I have to say...I have know idea what I think anymore BLAH!!:drool: I think one thing then go to another and when I go to type it, it just doesn't make since anymore and I feel sooo strongly about one thing then someone post something else that make alot of since and I'm back to square one.
Ok, I guess what I am trying to say is, I'm starting over fresh..relooking at everyone and going to try and make some kind of sence out of everything. One minute I feel EVERYONE is evil, then I'm like no s/he can't be.
This is going to take me awhile, but I will post some thoughts before I sign off and go to bed. Well knowing me, I will post thoughts as I see them, what was that Swayde...when they were talking about giving me the babble vial something about I babble all the time anyway

 

[ewurm]

On Day 2 I Have Coler voting for, in order, Ogre 313 JL 382 Ice 473 JL481 Ogre 550

I voted DC 252 JL 379 Ogre 541


On Day 1

2 JL66 - Coler(31), Ogre(86), ewurm(116), LG(145), Ice(157)
2 Ogre - Coler(79), Coler(121), DD(144)

You see how he kind of follows me? I vote JL he jumps on JL, then he jumps on me then back to JL and when I vote Ogre he jumps on Ogre. Then after night fall his first vote is on me?

Day 1 he was all over Ogre and JL

This makes me think JL might be innocent.




Is this a bad zombie joke?

I see logic here. I want to hear from BKW. I put my vote on him just to bring him out. If he provides enough info to get off the list, I might be on board with that vote too.

 

[DeputyChiefJR]

Have you guys actually done a search to pull up all of DC's posts and read them in order from his first post to his last? I really think he's a very good candidate for Mr. Evil.

Go for it, but you'll look pretty silly if you take me out.

 

[DeputyChiefJR]

Are you talking about Hooked Newbie (HN)? I'm unclear what the part of your post means (bolded - see above) re: HN being innocent?

Yes I am. He has used a successful strategy in the past and I hope to have similar success.

 

[Lady G]

My guess is that DD was trying to confuse us by throwing so many names out there to the point where we wouldn't think too much about her posts after she was dead and confirmed a zombie. I think she threw one of her teammates in there. Possibly one that wasn't suspected, who we would look at last? Again, just a thought...

She did mention Coler also, and after looking back through his posting...I am starting to second guess him. There are a few things I'd like to point out and will pull the post if necessary, but to not make this quite as long I am just going to reference the post #'s as I went back to day 1. I'm not sure he may of been zombie all along, again I go back and forth with this thought.
He starts out with post
#6- Saying he was "normal"
Post #33 makes a "random" vote for JL
#59-retracts vote aiming toward Orge
#73-makes mention about how "scum" post early (he was #6)
#79-He votes/unvotes Orge
#121-Votes Orge
#136-Has a list of DD and Orge..
This was day one...yes he posted many other post but these were the ones I thought I'd point out, mainly because of his "votings" and to point out how he was a early poster saying he was normal, then makes mention on how "scum" post early.
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Now Day 2
#312-Swayde had pointed out that he was on and hadn't posted, he tells her it was impossible and must of left his browser open for 10min. Well I was on at that time and I know he was there and it was more than 10min.
Also in that post he said he suspects ppl who suspect him...Unless you are evil, you have know idea who is who, everyone is supposed to suspect everyone until they are convinced otherwise..I just think this is odd (is it just me?)
#313-Lists Orge and DD again, add's me and JL as maybes and says Ice to be innocent. Votes Orge
#372-Now list's Orge, DD and Me.
382-Now votes JL (2 posts after Ice did btw)
#473-Retracts vote for JL/votes Ice...now what I find strange is that he has been naming Orge and DD consistent..added me and JL, goes to me but votes JL (after Ice) then comes and votes Ice??
#480-Thinks he will be turned and is going to come back with a rating list.
#481-Retracts Ice vote, revotes JL-then add's "if JL is evil so is Ice"..which actually brings me to a interesting twist..JL has said the exact same thing.
#510-Now his tops are Swayde,Jp, DD unvotes JL
#532-Now he is saying that JL and Ice being both evil is "flawed" logic, note he says this to JL..who has said "If I am evil so is Ice", you can go back and see this he has JL's post quoted in this post, and his response is this is flawed logic...did he forget HE said the exact thing???
#550-Choosing between DD and Orge...voted Orge.
#556-but he says he likes Orges other 2 suspects (DD, and myself), but I don't understand the next part, (whats he mean):"and I am now between Ogre and Ice myself for a third" Look at this post so you can see what do you get from this???
#561-Again states he does not think JL looks evil
#568- Say's he believes DD to be evil, but is going to vote Orge?
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Now he has posted very little.
This is what I think...could be way off...but I think he may of been night 1 change or evil all along.
I am really leaning more to he was the night 2 change, with DD/JL originals. Sorry guy's I just can't shake my feeling of JL. I may in the end come off JL who know's as I am going to re look at what all has been said by everyone. If after rereading his post I feel him unevil I will let it be known. I believe Coler to know JL is evil and is trying to act like he is unsure of him, I"m sorry it is just way to convient that they BOTH said the EXACT same thing, then without even acknowledging he (Coler) had said it, he calls JL out on it and says that it is "flawed Logic"? I believe this is a distancing tacktic for both of them.

I hope this is not too confusing I thought it would be less confusing without all the quoted posts, just look back and see yourself if I confused you to much. Opinions please.