View Full Version : fish are friends AND food
Sploke
09-23-2009, 9:59 PM
:D
Welcome to the new forum section!
Kashta
09-23-2009, 10:07 PM
This is so cool!! Yay! :)
excuzzzeme
09-23-2009, 10:30 PM
So where's the food?
rocker92
09-23-2009, 10:31 PM
great idea for a new forum!!!!
froglover007
09-23-2009, 10:32 PM
Yay! I will be sure to visit
Vicious_Fish
09-23-2009, 10:40 PM
Glad to see we have this section up and running now!
PaulJ69
09-24-2009, 10:21 AM
Very Nice!
TwoTankAmin
09-24-2009, 10:26 AM
Why stop at fish. Dogs are friends and food too.
In Vietnam, people eat dog.
Dogmeat (http://www.flickr.com/photos/loupiote/sets/1652923/) is locally reared, eaten only at the close of the lunar month and is a modern-day expression of an historic rural and ethnic tradition of hunting for and eating wild dogs.
In other words, however ethically hard to stomach, dog is a local, seasonal and authentic ingredient.
Where does our heroic, liberal attachment to traceability, honesty and native tradition end and the morality of what we eat kick in?
In Vietnamese cooking, there are seven ways to cook a dog.
In a culture of grass-fed milk and hardcore food provenance, could one of these recipes ever make an eco-hero's menu? Or is this a dog's breakfast of food ethics?
Thit Cho Luoc - Steamed dog
Cha Cho - Grilled dog
Rua Man - Steamed dog in shrimp sauce, rice flour and lemon grass
Doi Cho - Dog sausage with dog blood, peanuts, vegetables and neck bone
Gieng Me Mam Tom - Steamed dog in shrimp sauce, ginger, spices and rice vinegar
Canh Xao Mang Cho - Bamboo shoot and dog bone marrow
Cho Xao Sa Ot - Fried dog in lemon grass and chilli
PaulJ69
09-24-2009, 10:29 AM
:headshake2:
Coler
09-24-2009, 10:34 AM
Careful boys and girls. If by eat you mean place in mouth, swallow, digest and excrete, then lets be honest - you can eat 99% of anything you can fit in your mouth. We all make personal decisions on what that should be. Personally I find my plate incomplete without at least one chunk of something furry, feathery or finny which has starred in an animated feature.
However this is a community that very successfully abstains from trying to impose subjective moral judgments on other people's choices. The topic of this thread is is this new forum and/or fish as food and the processes of catching 'em.
I am Coler and I approved this moderation.
SubRosa
09-24-2009, 11:00 AM
So it's cool to say how good of a fishbait dog meat is?:devil:
Star_Rider
09-24-2009, 11:02 AM
for what? shark?
;)
TwoTankAmin
09-24-2009, 11:09 AM
So this is better then?
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Vicious_Fish
09-24-2009, 11:16 AM
Why stop at fish. Dogs are friends and food too.
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I hear there still are some cannibal tribes in Papua New Guinea. So why not add humans to the list?
Opps, this is getting way off topic. Back to the fish...
SubRosa
09-24-2009, 11:50 AM
for what? shark?
;)
Never tried it for shark, but it can certainly catch flounders and clams!
chefjamesscott
09-24-2009, 12:27 PM
so this is a place where we can post fish recipes and such ???
Sploke
09-24-2009, 12:38 PM
Sure, I'd be interested in some good recipes for gamefish.
noodles62
09-24-2009, 12:50 PM
Excellent new forum! :thumbsup:
chefjamesscott
09-24-2009, 1:49 PM
ah then I will have to get cooking for ya!!
I do have to tell you a fishing story. My first restaurant was called The Myrtle and Oak Cafe. It was focused on fresh never frozen seafood for the thursday to saturday evening menus. I would find out the fresh list on wed night and have my fish delivered thursday afternoon or morning.
One time they got barracuda in so I planned out a pan seared maple almond item. Did my first dish, it looked so fantastic. Put the fish in the holding oven so I could flambe deglaze the pan, reduced it and it came out as a top notch sauce. Plated the fish and poured over the sauce and sent it out.
Took less than 3 minutes and the dish came back. I was shocked. The dude said the sliced almonds were not edible.
It turns out that barracuda scales which look just like almonds release and detach from the fish when cooked ahhahahhhahhahahha. So here we had this killer drambuie reduced creme sauce where scales and almonds had a meeting.
The next order, I made sure the skin was not present on the dish.
So with this in mind give me a fish and I will give you a menu idea
excuzzzeme
09-24-2009, 2:29 PM
Weakfish and striped bass make for a very good meal! Of course most gamefish do.
My question for anyone to answer: Sea Robins; are they edible? I have been catching tons of them this year for some reason and not getting any Bluefish or Striped Bass.
chefjamesscott
09-24-2009, 2:45 PM
is this a picture of a searobin
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh210/nheeeca/Searobins.jpg
if so dang I would so put them in a tank that is cool
http://www.bonairetalk.com/newsgroup/messages/23830/33048.jpg
another image i got very cool yeh I could cook that
excuzzzeme
09-24-2009, 3:34 PM
This is the one we catch around here. I know there are many different species of it.
106471
Bubbles2112
09-24-2009, 3:41 PM
This is the one we catch around here.
Where is 'here'? Atlantic???
I really am liking this new forum as I have just started fishing again after a long absence from the sport!
chefjamesscott
09-24-2009, 3:47 PM
so that fish would be about 16 inches long or so, the body looks like it has good filet on it would depend if the fish tasted muddy or not, what kind of diet does this fish have.
very cookable if I have the size right should be able to feed at least 2 people on that
excuzzzeme
09-24-2009, 4:44 PM
We catch them all sizes the largest to date about 24". They are a bottom feeding omnivore.
"Here" is New England - specifically the Long Island Sound
chefjamesscott
09-24-2009, 4:46 PM
ok does it have scales or scaleless if it does not have scales i have an idea on how you could cook a fish like that
excuzzzeme
09-24-2009, 8:01 PM
It is claimed by many that it is white meat and the tail (anything aft of the anal opening) is delicious. My fishing partner has been filleting it and we have been using them for bait. Guess what we catch? - yep more of them LOL. From looking at his fillets, I see no reason ahy the whole flank can't be used.
dirtydawg10
09-25-2009, 12:07 AM
Nice idea for a new forum!
Plec123
09-26-2009, 2:29 PM
This is the one we catch around here. I know there are many different species of it.
106471
sea robins put up a nice fight for a fish their size... but, theyre pretty annoying. they stesl bait thats meant for fluke :irked:
chefjamesscott
09-26-2009, 3:00 PM
ok ? if i come up with a recipe for you for this sea robin will you make it and try it? need to know if the fish is scaleless or scaled
I WOULD SO MAKE A TANK FOR A FISH LIKE THAT
jaysen
09-26-2009, 5:15 PM
sea robins do have scales and i know many people that eat them.
jpappy789
09-26-2009, 6:01 PM
So this is better then?
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I laugh at their stupidity...
shwank005
10-11-2009, 4:33 PM
Not a bad way to get hard to catch fish out of your tank without tearing out all the rockwork. With a small barbless hook, I can't really see the harm to an otherwise healthy fish. Question is how to get the one you want?
saganco
10-19-2009, 11:06 AM
SOOOOO good to have a real chef who knows how to make a good fish meal around here!!! :clap: What could you recommend for trout (rainbow, brook, or browns) that give it more flavor and somehow minimize the annoyance with a zillion tiny bones?
I also have a bunch of white bass fillets in the freezer and a bunch of catfish coming - always looking for new and creative recipes for them.
Thanks chef! If you don't want to post them here, you could pm me if you prefer. I sure appreciate it if you have time.