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Makaiveli
04-26-2004, 3:54 PM
I just saw a bigger blue hermit pull a smaller blue hermit&shell into the bigger blue hermits shell.

Is this mating? Or is it big eats small cannabalism?

stephenray75
04-26-2004, 4:52 PM
could be one of the two. I know they will fight each other if one has a shell the other needs.

Cearbhaill
04-27-2004, 4:56 AM
I see mine fighting like this all the time- I've started pulling the huge ones out for trading. When they are tiny they seem ok but those big ones make me wonder...

sillycat
04-27-2004, 10:05 AM
my hermits also wrestle for shell. sometime the small ones got pullled out and die. :sad

Makaiveli
04-27-2004, 12:37 PM
Cearbill - I've started pulling the huge ones out for trading.

So, like a way of giving them their own medicine? They pull small ones out of shells, you teach them a lesson and pull them out of their shell? Revenge is sweet, is it?

Cearbhaill
04-27-2004, 2:35 PM
Aaacckkk! :eek: :eek: :eek:

I don't pull them out of their shells- I pull them out shells and all and trade them to my LFS for fish food!

Makaiveli
04-27-2004, 5:14 PM
I got it now!! LOL

either way you're cool with me. Hey, is that dog, the same dog from "Of Mice and Men"? :confused:

Cearbhaill
04-28-2004, 5:26 AM
I don't know what dog is in "Of Mice and Men".

The dog is "Newman"- she is our 7 year old Irish Wolfhound. That's what she does when we say "smile". More about my dogs here-Cearbhaill Irish Wolfhounds. (http://www.irish-wolfhounds.com) The site is old with lots of broken links but the photos are fun.

skippy2
04-28-2004, 11:52 AM
ot for sure but your dog is gorgeous. My brother had two irish wolfhounds a few yrs. ago (Fred and Ethel). He warned me not to get near them but of course I didn't listen. Fred put is 2 front paws on my shoulders to give me kisses. The funny part is is that he had to bend down to kiss me. He was over a foot taller than me standing on his hind legs.

Cearbhaill
04-28-2004, 12:18 PM
Really, really OT!!

Like this?
Here is "Steve" our male-

http://www.irish-wolfhounds.com/IMG07a.jpg

Makaiveli
04-28-2004, 3:11 PM
Those dogs could eat a wolf!

Do you ever hunt wolves with them? Amazing.

Anyone know of a bigger dog than that? I'd love to see it! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Makaiveli
04-28-2004, 3:30 PM
http://picture.funnyjunk.com/pics/bigdog.jpg

So would your dog be able to eat this dog?

Cearbhaill
04-28-2004, 3:36 PM
No but they could **** sure out run him.

Edit: They're gonna throw us outta here if we keep this up- no more dog posts in General Marine!!

mogurnda
04-28-2004, 4:04 PM
[puts on mod hat]
Well, it is a little off topic....

On the other hand, it's Mak's thread, if he wants to hijack it.

benjen
04-28-2004, 5:31 PM
Heh... A topic I know more about than fish at this point...

Male Irish wolfhounds reach 32 to 34 inches tall and are often over six feet long. They can reach 120 lbs, sometimes more.

Great Danes, the next tallest dogs, reach 30-32 inches tall, with a rare few reaching 34 inches. Great Danes tend to weigh between 120 and 200 lbs.

The average adult weight of a male Saint Bernard is 184 lbs, and they do top 200, but they never get as tall as the wolfhound or great dane.

English mastiffs (like I'm wagering the one in the picture is) only have an average weight of 180 lbs, but there are records of them reaching 220 lbs, making them the heaviest dogs. They are also shorter than wolfhounds and great danes.


The North American Grey/Timber wolf averages 30" in height and is all over the place in weight. (Literally between 40 and 175 lbs.) They tend to top out at 3 to the shoulder and 80" long.

In short, a full sized alpha male timber wolf is very dangerous if you force it into a position to fight for its life. One Wolfhound vs. one timber wolf in equivalent health/relative size would be a nasty encounter that I wouldn't wish on either animal, as we have good fences to keep wolves away from livestock.

So... err... what sort of predatory fish hunt in packs? (We can pretend it's on topic.)


EDIT:
Whoops... I was looking at the wrong subspecies. A grey wolf has been measured at 38" at the shoulder. (Not common, obviously.) So wolves are probably still the largest canids by height. Most wolves are considerably shorter, though, and very few of the big heavy ones can still be found in the wild. (The heaviest wolf on recent records was 122 lbs.)

Makaiveli
04-28-2004, 7:05 PM
I saw a leapard attack some guy on tv. They were relocating it, and at the dumping place, it wouldn't leave the cage. So from the cab, out of the drivers-side window, a guy tried pushing/poking it with a stick to get it to move out. That just pissed it off, and shortly later it quickly exited the cage and broke the driver side window and jumped almost all the way in the cab. The guy was able to fight it back out, but not without sustaining serious damage.

I'd like a soft and fuzzy giant leapard, too bad they're too wild and have giant claws/teeth.

That story reminds me of fish. and giant dogs.

skippy2
04-28-2004, 7:34 PM
My daughter's neighbor has an English Mastiff that weighs 250lbs!!!! My daughter's 2 labs weigh app. 90lbs. each Thank God for invisible fences.:D

mogurnda
04-29-2004, 7:58 AM
Allright, guys. This is straying way off topic. Besides, what if someone were interested in wolfhounds? They'd never find it under "Do hermit crabs eat one another?"

Cearbhaill
04-30-2004, 5:46 AM
Heh... A topic I know more about than fish at this point...

I dunno- your info is incorrect :D

Male Irish wolfhounds reach 32 to 34 inches tall and are often over six feet long. They can reach 120 lbs, sometimes more.

Way off base.

benjen
04-30-2004, 11:18 AM
Way off base.

Hmm... I looked at the place I got the info and I don't think the author really knew as much as he portrayed himself knowing by phrasing. :( I've never owned a wolfhound and was going off what I've read. I remembered that this guy listed them as the tallest dogs, but I bet he was going by breed requirements, not real weights. This is what I get every time I don't check additional sources. I should learn.

Some further checking shows that he gave the breed minimum weight as the max weight (grumble). Maybe the 180-190 lbs range is more realistic as top weights? I know that they typically weigh less than the larger great danes, but I did think 120 lbs was pretty darn skinny. If the author was going with breed standards, I'd wager that wolfhounds have been measured more like 36" at the shoulder as well then.

Gah... Throw out my whole post on dog breeds. The gray wolf info is the only stuff that I now trust to be accurate because it came from a very different source.

...

OK. From my own checking (rather than looking at an author who had summarized it completely wrong):

Wolfhounds: reach 36" and maybe 190 lbs. as a normal dog (with a rare few bigger than that.)
Great Danes: one reached 41.5" and 238 lbs, but most rarely exceed 36" and 200 lbs
Saint Bernards: reach up to 33" and 210+ lbs
English Mastiff: one reached 37", 99" long, and 343 lbs. Most top out at maybe 34" and in the mid 200's for lbs.

I really do know more about canids & other mammals than fish, though I'm shaky on various individual domestic breeds. However, that partly just means I don't know that much about fish yet, unfortunately. :(

wastememphis
05-02-2004, 6:14 PM
http://www.aquaticphotos.com/data/media/26/Tank_05-02-04_001.jpg


all out war.

skippy2
05-02-2004, 7:26 PM
Another survival of the fittest picture. BTW, good picture wastememphis

wastememphis
05-02-2004, 8:23 PM
thank you... i just took it :)

skippy2
05-02-2004, 8:37 PM
Must be nice to use your camera to document your tank. I have spent I don't know how many hrs. trying to download my pictures from my digi to my pc. I am so disgusted. I got a great picture of my 3 cats downloaded. The pc must not like my tank.

Makaiveli
05-02-2004, 9:01 PM
ROFL

:laugh:

wastememphis
05-03-2004, 2:03 AM
Its actually three on one. The one you cant see is in its original shell still. The new shell gang wanted nothing to do with him.

mogurnda
05-03-2004, 10:04 AM
That is a nice picture. Illustrates hermit temperament well.

One thing I find odd is that they are wearing astrea shells. None of my hermits, no matter how big, will touch them. Probably good news for my astreas.

wastememphis
05-03-2004, 11:58 AM
The one they are on top of has a cone shaped shell... they all have a temper, for some reason last night they were moving really quick all over the place, I never noticed them doing this before, I guess I'm too occupied looking at everything else. Are those bad shells to give hermits... they were the free ones they gave me when I bought them.

mogurnda
05-03-2004, 12:03 PM
I don't think they're bad, I'm just a little surprised. I have added shells of all kinds, and they seem to really like cerith shells.