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Boogiechillin
03-02-2003, 10:15 PM
Slip posted this link in GCC, but it bears posting again here for the beginners:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=158663&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

The thickness of your skin prevents you from suffering direct damage from most coral stings, so it can be easy to forget that these critters can hurt you. (A notable exception is Millepora...fire coral...you definitely won't forget it if you EVER brush up against one of those :rolleyes: )

Physical wounds aside, what can really threaten you are the toxins injected when corals and anemones sting. You are ESPECIALLY at risk if you have open wounds on your hands. Anemones are probably the most dangerous; the zoanthids mentioned in the link above are actually a form of colonial anemone and not a true coral. Larger anemones, especially carpet anemones, can really pack a punch. A number of experienced people on this site can attest to just how sick a good carpet sting can leave you. What makes this especially dangerous is that sensitivity varies between people - some feel nothing from a good sting, others are down with flu-like symptoms for a week. As with any type of sting, more severe allergic reactions are also a possibility, so if you have a history of allergies, watch yourself.

It's also worth mentioning that a number of fish can potentially hurt you. Lionfish, stonefish, marine catfish, fang blenny and foxface stings can range from painful to life threatening depending on the species and your personal sensitivity. Others, like eels and triggerfish, can inflict nasty bites.

I don't mean to scare anyone here; I just want to see people be more careful.
1) ALWAYS know any potential dangers of an organism before you take it home, and respect its capabilities.
2) Keep kids and pets away from your tanks, especially if you own any risky critters.
3) Invest in a good pair of elbow length gloves:
http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_Display.cfm?siteid=6&pCatId=3871
(Marine Depot actually has these a little cheaper, but I couldn't link straight to them...a little goofy looking, but they offer good protection, AND your significant other will stop complaining about your dry aquarium hands :D )

- BC

Soccer
03-04-2003, 8:34 PM
I was just about to post the same thing boogie. I had no clue about those zooanthids, I was attaching some to a rock and didn't wash my hands after I guess I got lucky. Time to get some good gloves just to be safe. Thanx for posting this valuable info ;)

rift-n-reef
03-08-2003, 12:44 AM
Not a bad reminder for those of us with some experiance either. Some times I'm very guilty of being lackisdasical around my tanks. Prime example, I got nailed by an orange eye'd urchin yesterday at work, and a little over a week ago, I got bumped by a foxface which left the back of my hand itching for two days. A good peice of information for all.

"J"

OrionGirl
03-10-2003, 11:42 AM
Another bit of good advice: look into the best at home treatments for the particular toxic critter you have in your tank. For example, if stung by a lion fish, running the affected area under the hottest water you can stand immediately will reduce the toxins impact. For all toxins which are protien based (and this is a lot of them, including bees and wasps), put a hot wet compress of meat tenderizer (yes, like the kind you cook with), on the affected area. It breaks down the toxins. Ammonia and vinegar wll help ease the pain and itching of many stings--just a quick wash, then let dry. If you actually get hit by a fire worm (not a bristle worm, but an actual fire worm), don't rub the area dry. Without touching the area, let it air dry. Use a magnifying glass to locate the spines, and determine what direction they're running. Lay masking tape ont he area, working the same direction, and pull off. This will remove the spines, and reduce the irritation (same trick works with a bee stinger).

Most of all, be aware of what is in the tank. If you aren't sure if you will react, avoid contact with the critter if you are by yourself. Let a trusted friend (ie, medical contact) know where you keep a list of your toxic pets. This way, they can help the doctors if something does go wrong.

OrionGirl
06-06-2003, 9:11 AM
http://www.utah.edu/umed/students/clubs/international/presentations/dangers.html

Good link on some of the critters that are toxic, though we might not think of them as such.

Guy W
06-08-2003, 9:57 PM
This thread could also use a little discussion about aquarium products. For example, Kalkwasser is very fine and powdery. Not knowing better I opened mine just after dropping it and a cloud of white powder hit the air. I had a hard time breathing for a while and I couldn't get that taste out of the back of my throat for 2 days.

I'm sure there are other products that can be even more harmful if inhaled, or gotten on an open wound (hopefully everyone knows not to ingest that stuff).

Guy

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Kurt
01-11-2004, 10:13 PM
Wonder if my Green Button Polyps are dangerous:scratch:

BBN
02-10-2004, 12:56 PM
What about mushroom coral?

Makaiveli
03-17-2004, 12:03 PM
Jellyfish? I have baby jelly's maturing on one of my LR. So far the biggest are only -----

that long

@LVIN
04-21-2004, 7:30 PM
nice info.....good enough as a warning esp for reef keepers

CrazzE8z
04-22-2004, 10:45 PM
The information in this post can be very useful for beginners. Personally, I have been stung by some of the above items and I can attest to how painful they actually are. However, like stated above, the stings put out vary with different people. Me, myself, they have never affected me too badly. I have been stung by montipora (aka fire coral) three times, and though it burns/itches for eight to ten hours, it does not affect me too much. However, a friend of mine was stung by an anemone and was hospotalized for an entire week because he was allergic to that particular organism's sting.

As for the jellyfish, I believe they can be a little dangerous, but the mushrooms and polyps should be absolutely fine.

starmom
05-13-2004, 11:10 PM
im really sensitive to any kind of bug bite, seasonal allergies etc....

I guess I better get those gloves that go up your arm for working with the uncured rock im getting.....

thanks........
sue

axepilot
01-13-2005, 9:57 AM
A long time ago, I got popped by a lionfish while being careless cleaning my tank. I can personally attest to just how painful that was. I did my homework when I bought the lion, and I knew that hot water was the remedy.

Knowing what actions to take if you get invenomated is SOUND advice.

Bobar57
10-15-2005, 5:49 PM
It is always helpful information for novices and veterans either,while living in a country of the Caribbean I had my shares of stings from corals, anemones and inbebend spines from urchins on the feets, in my shopping list is the pair of gloves mentioned above :clap:

carracarra13
09-04-2006, 1:08 PM
got taged my self a few weeks ago by a bristle worm (fire worm) not an experience I want to repeat lots of discomfort

Nick540
02-15-2007, 9:15 PM
I have an anaphylactic allergy to both fish and shelfish. i take extra special care when dealing with my tank because it is death for me if something goes wrong. i have elbow legth gloves and let my wife do feedings and deal with the fish. is there any other precautions i should be aware of due to my allergy severnes? (I have 2 epipens about all the time)

WinnipegDragon
05-23-2007, 8:51 AM
Wow, you have a fatal allergy to shellfish and you are keeping a marine tank?

musho3210
05-23-2007, 6:54 PM
this is also great info when fragging zoas etc. Be vary careful, nothing wrong with a face mask and safety goggles.

SHK_ATK
05-23-2007, 8:57 PM
geez this is an old thread but good nonetheless.

chickenhawk
05-23-2007, 11:24 PM
I've got a couple scars from my percula....I jerked my arm when he nipped me and scraped the edge of the tank...blood in the water! I went out to eat sushi for dinner that night!

Nick540
06-04-2007, 4:23 AM
yes i cant let something like death get in between me and my tank lol:grinyes:

geofrs
06-09-2007, 4:21 AM
Hi All,
Many thanks for the safety info , as a Noob I have read and read about Reef critters etc but have not thought about the Dangers.
Many thanks for all of your input.
Best Regards Geofrs