yellow tang sick need help

[NanoMan]

my yellow tang is acting weird. there is a red line from his tail to the middle of his body(on the inside).he is still eating but this is overtaking him pretty fast.it started last night.the other fish are fine.water is fine on all checks.what is going on?

[kreblak]

Is the red line where the normally whitish line coloration would be? Running the length of the fish starting at the tail and coming to about the end of where its guts are visible from the outside? If so, check the fish for small (about half the size of a pinhead), black spots around the back of the gills, or anywhere else on his body. If you see any, then the tang has black Ich. I had a Yellow tang develop this and die. He showed similar symptoms to what you describe.

Oriongirl says that she has treated this by lowering the specific gravity in the tank to around 1.020, and with FW baths. I have found that No-Ich Marine works very well, and it's reef safe.

Of course, your tang could have something completely different. Is it showing any other symptoms like flashing, labored breathing, or holding his fins close in to his body? Also, are you providing the tang with enough vitamin C?

[NanoMan]

there are no black spots.
he will probably be dead by the time i get any kind of descent reply from this forum.

[VoodooChild]

Actually I think Kreblak's post was a very descent post. Otherwise it may be lateral line erosion, which tangs are prone to get. The cause of it is general unknown, though it is believed to be something along the lines of poor water quality and/or a lack of spiriluna in the diet, which tangs need a heavy amount of. What's your water parameters and feeding schedule? Sorry your tang didn't make it Kreblak.

[NanoMan]

ammonia-0
nitrite-0
nitrate-under 5
ph-8.3
specific gravity- 1.021

he is swimming crazy.
he has a red line inside his body starting from his tail and ending
around the middle of his body.i feed him prime reef flake/and frozen/ formula2 frozen/and brine shrimp frozen/and dried seaweed from time to time.
i am asking for help.
i will ask at WWM.

[ChilDawg]

Thanks for living up to your name, nopatience. We cannot fully diagnose the condition without as much information as that for which we are asking.

If you could show us a picture, that would be great and helpful, but would you please give us a chance???

[NanoMan]

no i believe this is my last post on this forum.
there are maybe 4 peeps who know what they are talking about and they never reply.i am tired of hearing replies from people who know less than i do.

[ChilDawg]

Well, then, I am sorry that you feel that way, but perhaps you could share your vast information with others who apparently need help more than you do?

[VoodooChild]

LOL. "Know less than I do"? C'mon buddy. I'll take you out to school any day of the week on any subject you could think of. You've come in here now a few times acting likey you're hot**** and disregarding people's advice. Hey guess what...if you don't want to take the advice then don't post a question! You're getting nothing but honest advice from people trying to help. Unbelievable. This is my last post on anything that has to do with nopatience. Good riddance.

[ChilDawg]

Originally posted by nopatience
there are maybe 4 peeps who know what they are talking about and they never reply.

I think that that might take the illogical one out of those four, as (s)he seems to reply a lot!

[NanoMan]

voodoo you are a tard. your posts make me think you ride the short bus.i have never heard anything from you that didnt sound ignorant. it is very stupid for me to post that my fish is sick/my water is fine and what i feed and then somebody say dur..what are your water readings? that is all i get here > what are your water readings. of course i am upset.

[gcvt]

Originally posted by nopatience
ammonia-0
nitrite-0
nitrate-under 5
ph-8.3
specific gravity- 1.021


Why is your SG so low? You should be up around 1.025 or so. Do you have a quarantine/hospital tank that can house the tang for treatment?

[ChilDawg]

As you can see from the prior post, we do know what we are talking about, and water parameters are important. Now maybe you will reconsider your earlier comments, nopatience?

[OrionGirl]

Just a warning. Everyone tries to help out. There are varying degrees of experience amongst our members, but no one will deliberately give you bad information. Nasty comments will not be tolerated.

If you feel you won't benefit from the knowledge provided, you are certainly welcome to leave. I would hope that you would stay, benefit from the experience of others, and share your own experiences.

[VoodooChild]

Sorry for my comments Mods.

[kreblak]

Wow, you miss a few hours and look what happens. Anyway, if I may, I will try to get back to the original topic of the sick tang. Nopatience, you never told us SPECIFICALLY what behavior the tang was showing. "Swimming crazy" could mean 500 different things. I have a domino damsel that swims upside down on occasion, and has for 6 months. He is fine healthwise, he just seems to enjoy it. Does that constitute "crazy?"

Also, you didn't tell us whether or not you have been supplumenting the tang's diet with vitamin C enriched foods. If you haven't, then VoodooChild's post about lateral line erosion may have been dead on.

GCVT also has a very good point about the SG in your tank. I have yet to find a source recommending less than 1.022.

Now, if you feel that our advice is worthless, may I suggest that you visit your public library and do some reading. There are a lot of books written by a lot of PhD's out there that know more than we do, and they MIGHT even know more than you.

[Cheech]

hey nopatience, simple... leave!!!

you said you'd leave, so just stop replying.

If you feel you're not getting the royal treatment that I think you're expecting, it's simple. Don't come back.

people like you aren't needed here!..

heck, it's a f*cken free forum and you're even getting picky


ciao!

[Boogiechillin]

Nopatience, Bob Fenner at WWM will tell you to pack off if you cop this kind of attitude with them - even extremely talented and experienced aquarists get stumped sometimes, and you shouldn't be that judgmental. He also won't be able to do a thing for your tang if you choose not to answer the relevant questions. We can't see your fish and we don't know your tank, so there's a lot of missing information that needs to be filled in before anyone can make a diagnosis. Red streaks and odd behavior can be anything from petecchial (which would be my guess) to black spot to swim bladder damage...we need more info, and I'll bet you a beer that specific water parameters are the FIRST thing that Fenner's crew asks for if you don't supply them in your question. Nine times out of ten, it's a water quality issue that results in a fish getting stressed enough to come down with a disease/infection in the first place.

I'm leaving this thread open to allow further discussion, but posts made with personal attacks will be edited at my discretion and I won't hesitate to close this down if it gets out of hand.

-BC