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beblondie

grand high exhalted poobah
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heres a list of primitive fish brace your self
Family:
Osteoglossidae
Arrowanas
Scleropages formosus =Asian arrowana( Southeast Asia)
Scleropages jardini = Australian Pearl Arowana AKA: Northern Spotted Barramundi or Jardini Arowana (Northern Australia and New Guinea)
Scleropages leichardti =Australian Spotted Arowana AKA: Spotted Barramundi or Saratoga (Northern Australia and New Guinea)
Osteoglossum ferrerai =Black arrowana (SouthAmerica)
Osteoglossum bicirrhosum =Silver arrwoana (South America)
Arapaima gigas =Arapaima AKA: Giant Arapaima or Pirarucu (South America)(Amazon basin)
Heterotis niloticus Heterotis AKA: African Arowana (River basins of Africa)
KNIFEFISH
African knifefishes
Gymnarchus niloticus – Nile knife/Aba Aba knife (Africa - nile river)36''
Papyrocranus Afer – African featherback/reticule knife/marbled knife (Africa)
Xenomystus Nigri – African (brown) knife (Africa) 8''
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Asian knifefishes
Chitala blanci - royal knife (Asia)24''
Chitala Chitala – clown knife/featherback/thousand dollar knife (Asia)24"
Chitala Lopis - Giant Featherback (Asia)
Notopterus Notopterus – Asian knife/Asiatic knife/Bronze featherback (Asia) 12"
Papyrocranus congoensis - (Asia)
South American Knifefishes-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apteronotus Anas Eigenmann – dragon knife/dolphin knife/duck head
Apteronotus Albinfrons – black ghost knife 22"
Apteronotus leptorhynchus – chocolate ghost knife/ brown ghost knife
Brachyhypopomus brevirostris - bluntnose knife*
Brachyhypopomus occidentalis - bluntnose knife*
Cryptops Humboldtii – glass knife/green knife
Eigenmannia virescens - glass knife/Green knife 18"(m)-10"(f)
Electrophorus electricus - electric eel 60"/
Gymnotus Anguillaris – Anaconda knife/Eel Knife 26"
Gymnotus Carapo – Carapo knife/banded knife/Zebra knife/eel knife 26"
Gymnotus tigre - Tiger knife26"
Gymnorhamphichthys rondoni - themometer knife/mousetailed knife/zebra longnose/sand knife 6"
Hypopomus Artedi - Artedi knife
Hypopygus lepturus - dwarf knife
Magosternarchus duccis - duke's channel knife
Oedemognathus exodon - tooth-lip knife
Orthosternarchus tamandua – white knife/albino knife/pink knife/trumpet knife/tamandua tube-snout knife/blind tubesnout
Rhamphichthys rostratus - trumpet knife/Ossa knife/marbled trumpet knife
Steatogenys Duidae - Mottled knife/Round-Headed knife 8"
Steatogenys Elegans – centipede knife/elegant knife/caterpillar knife/barred knife
sternarchus sp – blue knife
Sternopygus macrurus - longnosed knife
Sternarchorhamphus Oxyraynchus - elephant nosed knife (2nd Sp.)
Sternarchorhynchus curvirostris - trunked knife/elephant-nosed knife
Sternarchorhynchus oxyrhynchus - thin-nosed tube-snouted knife
Sternopygys macrurus - gold line knife/white line knife/long-tailed knife
Sturgeons and Paddlefish
Acipenser baeri (Siberian sturgeon)
Acipenser brevirostrum (shortnose sturgeon)
Acipenser dabryanus (Yangtze sturgeon)
Acipenser fulvescens (lake sturge0n)
Acipenser gueldenstaedti (Russian sturgeon)
Acipenser medirostris (green sturgeon)
Acipenser mikadoi (Sakhalin sturgeon)
Acipenser multiscutatus (Japanese sturgeon)
Acipenser naccarii (Adriatic sturgeon)
Acipenser nudiventris (Fringebarbel sturgeon)
Acipenser oxyrhynchus (Atlantic sturgeon)
Acipenser persicus (Persian sturgeon)
Acipenser ruthenus (sterlet)
Acipenser schrencki (Amur sturgeon)
Acipenser sinensis (Chinese sturgeon)
Acipenser stellatus (starry sturgeon)
Acipenser sturio (sturgeon)
Acipenser transmontanus (white sturgeon)
Huso dauricus (kaluga)
Huso huso (beluga)
Pseudoscaphirhynchus fedtschenkoi (Syr Darya sturgeon)
Pseudoscaphirhynchus hermanni (dwarf sturgeon)
Pseudoscaphirhynchus kaufmanni (Amu Darya sturgeon)
Scaphirhynchus albus (pallid sturgeon)
Scaphirhynchus platorynchus (shovelnose sturgeon)
Polyodon spathula (Mississippi paddlefish)
Psephurus gladius (Chinese swordfish)
Polypterids
Upper Jaw Species-Upper jaw protrudes past lower jaw
P. palmas palmas ('palmas' bichir)- 13"
(subspecies)P. palmas polli ('marbled bichir)- 14"
(subspecies) P. palmas buettikoferi ('buettikoferi' bichir)- 13"
P.ornatipinnis ('ornate' bichir)- 27"
P.delhezi ('armoured' or 'delhez's' bichir)- 14"
P.senegalus senegalus ('Senegal' or 'Cuiver's' bichir)- 12"
(possible subspecies)P. senegalus meridionalis- 12"+
P.retropinnis ('retropinnis' bichir)- 14"
P.weeksi ('week's' bichir)- 20"
P.teugelsi
P.mokelembembe
E.calabaricus ('Ropefish')- 15"-30" (Closer to 15''-20'' in captivity)
Lower Jaw Species-Lower protrudes past upper jaw
P.endlicheri endlicheri ('saddled' or 'red' bichir)- 32", possibly more
(subspecies)P. endlicheri congicus ('giant' or 'congo' bichir)- 39"
P.lapradei ('Lapradei' bichir)- 24"
P.bichir bichir-30+ ''
P.ansorgii*
Lungfishes
South American lungfish (L. paradoxa)- 4'South American Lungfish
Australian lungfish (N. forsteri) 5' Queensland Lungfish
West African lungfish (P. annectens)3'African Lungfish
marbled African lungfish (P. aethiopicus)6'Marbled Lungfish
gilled African lungfish (P. amphibius)2'East African Lungfish
spotted African lungfish (P. dolloi)4'Slender Lungfish
Gars
Atractosteus spatula- alligator gar 6-10
Atractosteus tropicus- tropical gar 4'
Atractosteus tristoechus- cuban gar 6'
Lepisosteus osseus- longnose gar 6'
Lepisosteus platostomus- shortnose gar 2 1/2'-
Lepisosteus oculatus- spotted gar 4'
Lepisosteus platyrhincus- florida gar 4'
hybrid gars
Lepisosteus platostomus x Atractosteus spatula- Crocodile gar type I
Lepisosteus platyrhincus or oculatus x Atractosteus spatula-Crocidile gar type 2
Four known types exist both in wild and cultivated varieties:
Atractosteus spatula X Lepisosteus platostomus (Croc gar type I)
A. spatula X L. platyrhinchus (Croc gar type II)
A. spatula X L. oculatus
A. spatula X L. osseus
There is a strong possiability of A.spatula X A. tropicus from mexican aquacultured fish

Bowfin (Amia calva)2 1/2'

You get to know all this being a ''Ancient forum mod at MFK and elsewhere lol enjoy the list-Anne
 

chefjamesscott

beware the house tiger
May 28, 2008
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heres a list of primitive fish brace your self
Family:
Osteoglossidae
Arrowanas
Scleropages formosus =Asian arrowana( Southeast Asia)
Scleropages jardini = Australian Pearl Arowana AKA: Northern Spotted Barramundi or Jardini Arowana (Northern Australia and New Guinea)
Scleropages leichardti =Australian Spotted Arowana AKA: Spotted Barramundi or Saratoga (Northern Australia and New Guinea)
Osteoglossum ferrerai =Black arrowana (SouthAmerica)
Osteoglossum bicirrhosum =Silver arrwoana (South America)
Arapaima gigas =Arapaima AKA: Giant Arapaima or Pirarucu (South America)(Amazon basin)
Heterotis niloticus Heterotis AKA: African Arowana (River basins of Africa)
KNIFEFISH
African knifefishes
Gymnarchus niloticus – Nile knife/Aba Aba knife (Africa - nile river)36''
Papyrocranus Afer – African featherback/reticule knife/marbled knife (Africa)
Xenomystus Nigri – African (brown) knife (Africa) 8''
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Asian knifefishes
Chitala blanci - royal knife (Asia)24''
Chitala Chitala – clown knife/featherback/thousand dollar knife (Asia)24"
Chitala Lopis - Giant Featherback (Asia)
Notopterus Notopterus – Asian knife/Asiatic knife/Bronze featherback (Asia) 12"
Papyrocranus congoensis - (Asia)
South American Knifefishes-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apteronotus Anas Eigenmann – dragon knife/dolphin knife/duck head
Apteronotus Albinfrons – black ghost knife 22"
Apteronotus leptorhynchus – chocolate ghost knife/ brown ghost knife
Brachyhypopomus brevirostris - bluntnose knife*
Brachyhypopomus occidentalis - bluntnose knife*
Cryptops Humboldtii – glass knife/green knife
Eigenmannia virescens - glass knife/Green knife 18"(m)-10"(f)
Electrophorus electricus - electric eel 60"/
Gymnotus Anguillaris – Anaconda knife/Eel Knife 26"
Gymnotus Carapo – Carapo knife/banded knife/Zebra knife/eel knife 26"
Gymnotus tigre - Tiger knife26"
Gymnorhamphichthys rondoni - themometer knife/mousetailed knife/zebra longnose/sand knife 6"
Hypopomus Artedi - Artedi knife
Hypopygus lepturus - dwarf knife
Magosternarchus duccis - duke's channel knife
Oedemognathus exodon - tooth-lip knife
Orthosternarchus tamandua – white knife/albino knife/pink knife/trumpet knife/tamandua tube-snout knife/blind tubesnout
Rhamphichthys rostratus - trumpet knife/Ossa knife/marbled trumpet knife
Steatogenys Duidae - Mottled knife/Round-Headed knife 8"
Steatogenys Elegans – centipede knife/elegant knife/caterpillar knife/barred knife
sternarchus sp – blue knife
Sternopygus macrurus - longnosed knife
Sternarchorhamphus Oxyraynchus - elephant nosed knife (2nd Sp.)
Sternarchorhynchus curvirostris - trunked knife/elephant-nosed knife
Sternarchorhynchus oxyrhynchus - thin-nosed tube-snouted knife
Sternopygys macrurus - gold line knife/white line knife/long-tailed knife
Sturgeons and Paddlefish
Acipenser baeri (Siberian sturgeon)
Acipenser brevirostrum (shortnose sturgeon)
Acipenser dabryanus (Yangtze sturgeon)
Acipenser fulvescens (lake sturge0n)
Acipenser gueldenstaedti (Russian sturgeon)
Acipenser medirostris (green sturgeon)
Acipenser mikadoi (Sakhalin sturgeon)
Acipenser multiscutatus (Japanese sturgeon)
Acipenser naccarii (Adriatic sturgeon)
Acipenser nudiventris (Fringebarbel sturgeon)
Acipenser oxyrhynchus (Atlantic sturgeon)
Acipenser persicus (Persian sturgeon)
Acipenser ruthenus (sterlet)
Acipenser schrencki (Amur sturgeon)
Acipenser sinensis (Chinese sturgeon)
Acipenser stellatus (starry sturgeon)
Acipenser sturio (sturgeon)
Acipenser transmontanus (white sturgeon)
Huso dauricus (kaluga)
Huso huso (beluga)
Pseudoscaphirhynchus fedtschenkoi (Syr Darya sturgeon)
Pseudoscaphirhynchus hermanni (dwarf sturgeon)
Pseudoscaphirhynchus kaufmanni (Amu Darya sturgeon)
Scaphirhynchus albus (pallid sturgeon)
Scaphirhynchus platorynchus (shovelnose sturgeon)
Polyodon spathula (Mississippi paddlefish)
Psephurus gladius (Chinese swordfish)
Polypterids
Upper Jaw Species-Upper jaw protrudes past lower jaw
P. palmas palmas ('palmas' bichir)- 13"
(subspecies)P. palmas polli ('marbled bichir)- 14"
(subspecies) P. palmas buettikoferi ('buettikoferi' bichir)- 13"
P.ornatipinnis ('ornate' bichir)- 27"
P.delhezi ('armoured' or 'delhez's' bichir)- 14"
P.senegalus senegalus ('Senegal' or 'Cuiver's' bichir)- 12"
(possible subspecies)P. senegalus meridionalis- 12"+
P.retropinnis ('retropinnis' bichir)- 14"
P.weeksi ('week's' bichir)- 20"
P.teugelsi
P.mokelembembe
E.calabaricus ('Ropefish')- 15"-30" (Closer to 15''-20'' in captivity)
Lower Jaw Species-Lower protrudes past upper jaw
P.endlicheri endlicheri ('saddled' or 'red' bichir)- 32", possibly more
(subspecies)P. endlicheri congicus ('giant' or 'congo' bichir)- 39"
P.lapradei ('Lapradei' bichir)- 24"
P.bichir bichir-30+ ''
P.ansorgii*
Lungfishes
South American lungfish (L. paradoxa)- 4'South American Lungfish
Australian lungfish (N. forsteri) 5' Queensland Lungfish
West African lungfish (P. annectens)3'African Lungfish
marbled African lungfish (P. aethiopicus)6'Marbled Lungfish
gilled African lungfish (P. amphibius)2'East African Lungfish
spotted African lungfish (P. dolloi)4'Slender Lungfish
Gars
Atractosteus spatula- alligator gar 6-10
Atractosteus tropicus- tropical gar 4'
Atractosteus tristoechus- cuban gar 6'
Lepisosteus osseus- longnose gar 6'
Lepisosteus platostomus- shortnose gar 2 1/2'-
Lepisosteus oculatus- spotted gar 4'
Lepisosteus platyrhincus- florida gar 4'
hybrid gars
Lepisosteus platostomus x Atractosteus spatula- Crocodile gar type I
Lepisosteus platyrhincus or oculatus x Atractosteus spatula-Crocidile gar type 2
Four known types exist both in wild and cultivated varieties:
Atractosteus spatula X Lepisosteus platostomus (Croc gar type I)
A. spatula X L. platyrhinchus (Croc gar type II)
A. spatula X L. oculatus
A. spatula X L. osseus
There is a strong possiability of A.spatula X A. tropicus from mexican aquacultured fish

Bowfin (Amia calva)2 1/2'

You get to know all this being a ''Ancient forum mod at MFK and elsewhere lol enjoy the list-Anne
:eek3::eek3::eek3:

great now i gotta spend another four hours researching these fish :lol:

but honest thanks :thm:
 

Squeakfish

Fight the current!
Jan 9, 2008
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If you went brackish, you could do dragon gobies... how much more primitive looking do you get?
 

beblondie

grand high exhalted poobah
Mar 25, 2005
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I can kinda simplefy it some
lungfish-Australian lungfish (N. forsteri) 5' Queensland Lungfish its considered the most primitive of the extant lungfishes

bichirs any that i list below
P.endlicheri endlicheri ('saddled' or 'red' bichir)- 32", possibly more
(subspecies)P. endlicheri congicus ('giant' or 'congo' bichir)- 39"
P.bichir bichir-30+ ''
P.ansorgii*

from North america the (Amia calva) or bowfin 2 1/2'
 

beblondie

grand high exhalted poobah
Mar 25, 2005
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Are they more prehistoric looking than this

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