SillyPony they are L144 long fins. Looks to be a clump of around 20-ish. The second female wants to get in the cave with him and he won't let her, at least not yet. But I threw food in there and he came out to grab a bite, I think that's immaturity, the male plecos tend to never leave the eggs. He didn't stay out long though. All together I've got 4 more females with bellies full of eggs right now.