Mafia 9: The Bloody Coup

lol I know I used it at least once in the last game I played.
 
Some of Mee-mee's posts have put her on my radar:

In this first quote she acknowledges that the current score is 10 vs. 10
I totally agree with you Mad...the odds are stacked against us, 10 bad and 10 good....at least the Prez shows up as Citizen when they get investigated....and so the bad guys will never who they are hitting...
plus, I work 10 hour days Sa-W..so I try to post like crazy until I have to go to bed...
The President.... Can communicate with the Bodyguard. When/if the Detective finds the President then all 3 can communicate. Will always show as an innocent on investigations by Rebels.
and hopefully we can get the CIA/FBI before they get the Prez...

Again, this post acknowledges that she understands it's 10 vs. 10 and citizens have a 50% chance of randomly getting a rebel on the lynch
So this game is going to be as tough as last game....but it seems a 50/50 chance we might get lucky and get a Rebel....and absolutely no one come out and say what you are.....because we end up losing the important players way too early in the game...my 2 cents worth....

A little bit later in the game, JL66 wants to 'talk' about folks voting to lynch 'nobody.' Mee-mee thinks it might be a good idea...
I totally agree with you also JL....and the day one voting for no one, it would give the Detective a chance to investigate someone...but then with 2 Rebel teams, don't they each have 3 investigations...that makes a total of 6, to our one Detective who only has 3...and when the Rebels investigate anyone it will come up Innocent for the Prez and the other Rebel team...and the only 2 who will come up with the role plays are the Detective and the BG...so we CC seem to be saved there...for the Prez will not show up, but as an Innocent....So we do have to save our President...

Again, she's interested in voting to lynch 'nobody.'
If we did a no vote tomorrow night, then it would leave the Rebels a chance to take out 2 of us. One for CIA and 1 for FBI...and the Doctor can not protect against lynchings...only hits....
The Doctor’ can protect hits only not lynchings. If the Concerned Citizens lynch the president game over.
So maybe we should discus the no vote for night 1...since the Doc cant save against lynchings...
So basically it is the Prez and the BG who the Doctor has to look after...

Then we have this next post, it's really kind of strange. Here mee-mee acknowledges that she now understands that the score is 10 vs. 10 and that we have a 50/50 split citizens vs. townies. But she's already acknowledged that she understood this in previous posts. So what's this one all about?

By this time, JL66's plan to discuss lynching 'nobody' is raising the eyebrows of a few folks, and maybe if Mee-mee acts like she didn't understand the original citizen/rebel split she can backtrack on her agreement with the no vote? At any rate, it also gives her a chance to mention Joander's name again which I'll discuss in my next point.
So then it is 10 against 10....wow and we need to find all 10...now that is a wide spread 50/50...and now that I know that ...fellow CC Acvillers, we seriously need to be careful on who we lynch...becuz the doc. needs to pay close attention to the prz and bg...and the det...so we need to be on the ball and see who starts a wagon on whom...just like jo did with jp...

Next, mee-mee kind of subtly goes after Joander for casting an early vote for JPappy. Early on Joander cast a vote for JPap, and admitted that there wasn't a whole lot of reasoning behind it. He even went so far to say that the vote probably wouldn't stick.....it didn't. He later removes the vote and says he cast it to see if he could get any followers. This doesn't strike me as particularly scummy, as I've seen people toss other folks names out there to get reactions from other players...Mee-mee keeps tugging on this, though, and won't let it die, but won't cast a vote for Joander, either.

Here she first mentions the Jo vote for JPap

that is why I am posting, and I am also paying close attention....and jo said he was just trying to get people to jump on the lynchwagon for jappy...now that could easily raise red flags....

Here she's discussing the Joander vote for JPap with Plantling
Yes, we really need to be careful what we say....and I know I won't be starting in lynchwagons....we could end up lynching one of our Innocents....That does throw up a red flag for me alittle...and it is way too early to even decide on who to vote for...tomorrow night should be more promising....maybe...like all the other games....the first night is basically random...

Now mentioning the Jo vote for JPap to somebody else
Yeah, that is the tuff one...no one to read anything from....except Jo tried to start a wagon on jappy......

Once again mentions the Jo vote for JPappy
so we need to be on the ball and see who starts a wagon on whom...just like jo did with jp...

Now keep in mind I'm definitely NOT saying that Joander is a concerned citizen. In my mind he's still got a 50% chance of being rebel scum. But in rereading all of his posts, nothing really strikes me as being that scummy, yet. Not enough for Mee-mee to keep coming at the guy 4 different times, and then going on to vote for someone else.

I think that Mee-mee needs to be watched closely.
 
A couple of other folks to watch:

Dangerdoll - coming after Joander hard for the JPap vote. Also voting Joander because he used 'townie' and 'citizen' interchangeably? She was also interested in JL66's 'nobody' vote on night 1.

JohnLarson66 - the whole 'let's talk about voting for nobody' is not sitting quite right. He says let's talk about it....then says he didn't want to do it. JL66 are you saying that you were laying a trap?

Cory Lover - maybe 5 posts so far. 3 were basically 'LOL's'. Another was going after Sploke for his sarcastic newbie mistake post (which says that for some reason Cory may not be reading that closely). And the most recent saying he'd decide who to vote for before the lynch.
 
/game off

Is anyone else having problems when doing an advanced search on the Mafia 9 thread by specific poster? For some reason, I'm not getting all of of a person's posts to show up....really strange.

/game on
 
I'm going to agree with DD on the Joander vote, it's pretty early, but you're already calling us by the wrong name...
 
So then it is 10 against 10....wow and we need to find all 10...now that is a wide spread 50/50...and now that I know that ...fellow CC Acvillers, we seriously need to be careful on who we lynch...becuz the doc. needs to pay close attention to the prz and bg...and the det...so we need to be on the ball and see who starts a wagon on whom...just like jo did with jp...
But the Doc, dosen't know who the prz, bg & det are do they?
Ok, I think I'm caught up after a long day at work, TGIF!

Here are my general thoughts so far, I'll go back through and reply to quoted posts in a bit.

The interaction between Lady G & Mee-mee seems to be odd. It changed from seemingly friendly banter in the beginning. This leads me to believe that one (if not both) of them is a rebel. If they are both, I think they're on opposing rebel factions.
And where exactly do you get this from? In the begining everyone was pretty much back and forth "friendly" Jpap votes light heartedly to lynch CL, Cl comes back with LOL on that, Cs makes comment to JL now has someone to vote for b/c of Jpaps "pump jams comment...it was the begining everyone was "silly" to each other.
Emma- A newbie with zero posts. May be real world calling or laying very low. That or she may not know the game has started (in my first game I kept looking at the Signup thread and didn't see the game had begun until I looked in general chit chat). Probably not the case, but it could happen.
I checked into her postings and she has posting nothing anywhere since the 15th, so I don't think she has been on. If she has she REALLY needs to post something though. Maybe she is hear invisible and not posting anywhere purposly? JL- I don't like the idea of voting for no one either. It seems too easy an "out" for the rebels who want to fly below the radar. I see that you were throwing it out for discussion and that's just my 2 cents.
I agree voting "no-one" helps no-one except the rebels, unless a very good reason I think that to be a bad idea..just MHO!
Mad- Pointing the possibility out of Team B knowing who the president is based on a hit from team A helped the town since Ice closed that loophole, but it looks suspiciously like an attempt to coordinate the rebel agencies.

Plantling- I do die early so I'm gonna try to make this first long day count and add some value even if I'm not around to enjoy the green party's victory.

That's it for now. Time to re-read and reply to the post #s I've noted.

A long drooling day at work? What exactly is it that you do? lol
Oh are you really digging here...it's roleplay silly, but if you want to know I am a bartender and yes some days are very long and drooling especially with the new manager we have that wants to breath down everyones neck at every moment of every shift..hmmm kinda like you are doing:silly:
What sort of green party supporter would watch Fox?
Again...still roleplay but if you would like to know in "real life" YES I like Fox news...if I'm going to watch a new channel it is Fox news sorry if that makes me bad
Why didn't Sov say anything about Z pointing her out. even though they were weak cases...and for CS agreeing with him...and for the vote Z did on her....

that has me a little concerned also...and if Emma doesn't show up at all tomorrow, we really need not waste a vote, for she will have an untimely death anyway...just wanted to get that out there before anyone starts the wagon on her....it would be fruitless.......
I believe you die a untimely death if you arent active for 2 day/night cycles, not 2 days. Yes that is it:
4) If you aren't active for two day/night cycles, with at least posting once, then you will pass away from some strange (probably embarrassing) illness that I will give you.
 
Ok, gone through everything....man that gets tedious:drool: anyway I have found something I personaly find interesting, has anyone else noticed (or am I just up to late) there seems to be an "odd" connection between Jo and Jpap?
First of Jo's very first post #39 he Bolds (not just throws out the name) to Lynch Jpap.
Jpap Post #59 comes back (reasonably so) saying Kind of odd reasoning in my opinion.
Jo post #82 comes back and retracts his vote saying to Jpap:ok, jpap like i said, it was just to throw a vote out there.

To be honest i was hoping to get some early train followers.... but my reasoning wasnt really good enough to get anyone to bite it appears.
Ok, this is all good also, explains a little why he did what he did...but did we need a "train" at this point?
Now these post are not all that telling but as the game goes on,
Post #151, Jpap starts with top person on his list is Jo, then at the end of the post he changes (after listing some of DC's post) which really contain nothing "suspicious" IMO says he is NOW his top choice..b/c he doesn't have a list. At this point not many people have posted any kind of list (a couple but not many).
Post #152, Jo comes in and says how no matter what he does people think he's wrong and explains again his reason for voting jpap.
Post # 153, Jpap comes back and says: see your point joander. I think that as of right now you are suspicious mostly because no one else has done anything...
So at this point we have Jo voting Jpap, Jpap naming Jo as top but then saying DC is his top, to Jpap "seeing Jo's point" in voting for him early on.
Post #154 Jo comes back after Jpap posting:well someone has to get the game moving =)
it seems the first day the game starts (real life not game days) that no one says much of anything, just all useless posts hoping that someone will screw up. And in my opinion it is wasted time, especially if no one screws up. We spend so much time looking for a "newbie mistake" but when there's even the slightest chance of one happening, we relentlessly jump on the person who "screwed up" and lynch them out of the town.
Now Jo is not a newbie and he is the only one to really be jumped on so that theory kinda backfires at him.
Then we get to post #175..Jo is trying to defend himself again and voting KOTD now saying: i vote to lynch KOTD

for doing exactly what i wanted him to, and falling into the trap of early lynchers, and train jumpers.
Now unless I missed something KOTD simply added a list of 2 people, didn't vote for anyone or "jump" on a train. If I'm wrong here please correct me. I just didn't see a train jump or early lyncher.
Of coarse KOTD comes back saying Jo just moved to top of his list Post#179
Interestingly here comes Jpap post #180 to "defend" Jo again saying "I wouldn't move Jo up on my list yet"
I may be crazy here, but it seems a pattern is forming between Jo & Jpap?
When KOTD comes back with why he feels this way about Jo, Jpap then says "I get your reasoning"
Then post #196 Jpap finally asks Jo for his reason to vote KOTD although previously in post #183 he "agrees with Jo and has KOTD on his "watch list"
Post #204 Jpap, kinda came out of nowhere it states:I guess I'm just an agreeable person.

It's early and I'm taking everyone's thoughts into consideration. I have put my own opinions in their too. I just agreed with KOTDs point about jo being all fussy when nobody voted for him. He made a good point IMO
Where exactly are your opinions Jpap..you are just following after Jo then KOTD, aside from the post about DC? Please point me in the direction where YOU have made your OWN opinion?
In the end they have both voted for someone different Jo/KOTD and Jpap/DC.
Now maybe I AM reading to much into things here but these two seem to be pretty side by side here on posting and make me very uncomfortable. If anyone thinks I'm wrong please let me know I don't want to throw out false accusations but this was something I noticed and wondered if anyone else found it to be as "odd" as I have?
 
In no particular order, taking Ice's initial list of players and rearranging only for post count...and it may or may not mean anything...as it doesn't reflect timing or meaning of posts (some were just chit chat and how to's)....

mee-mee 53
jpap 37
zsand 30
rbishop 26
charlie 16
hooked 15
plant 15
sov 13
sploke 12
kotd 11
jl66 11
mad 11
ogre 10
dd 8
joan 8
lady 7
cory 5
deputy 5
bkw 3
emma 0

I show 8 votes cast so far...

joan (2) by deputy 306 DD 287
jl66 (1) by ogre 279
charlie (1) by jl66 89
sovran (1) by zsand 232
deputy (1) by jpap 288
kotd (1) by joan 175
hook (1) by mee 280
 
for 41 hrs into this approx 54 hr game day one, not a lot to go on for the remaining 12 hrs unless a lot of people start talking.
 
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