Biological Badlands...Mafia #8

[Dangerdoll]

Sway, my thoughts on Guppy are this. I don't know enough about her to recognize whether she is innocent or guilty but I think because she hasn't posted, we shouldn't waste our time on her. We need to focus our attentions on the live scientiists so that we can rid our village of them once and for all. To concentrate on guppy is taking time away from our discussions and bringing the bad out of the cracks. If she does not post by the nights end, we will find out what her position is anyway and she will be gone.

 

[Swayde]

I vote to genetically test Iceh2o. The vote change back to Mee-Mee is really bothering me. Plus he attempted to cast suspicion on me early on because of a mistake in my list. He did drop it after I explained to him that it was a misunderstanding, and I let it go. Then he tried to defend Jpap by saying it was a holiday weekend, and again I let that go when he said he admitted he again made a mistake, because I understand mistakes can and do happen. Then he was the first person to point out that he'd changed his avatar and told everyone not to read anything into it, that rang a suspicious bell with me. Also, because of his vote on KoTD...I am not sure on KoTD's innoence, but his reason is "your wish is my command" I know there is probably more to it than that, but that's what he said when he voted for him. It also seems like he's trying kinda hard to defend Ewurm as well.

It just seems there are a lot of little things he's said that are just nagging at me and right now, he's my most likely suspect.

 

[plantling]

Night fall for Day #1 will be at 8 PM EST, Monday 09/10
16/17 Votes NO VOTE: GGF
5-Mee-Mee: IceH2O (8) johnlarson66 (103) ewurm (108) bkw1982 (244) KOTD (247) DeputyChief (258) IceH2O (349) Lady G (351)
1-jpappy: Swayde (130) Mee-Mee (191)
3-ewurm: ZSandmann (143) plantling (254) jpappy (265)
1-Charlie_Stubbs: Hooked Newbie (155)
1-nmrsco: IceH2O (216) Swayde (302)
1-GuppyGuppyFish: Charlie_Stubbs (231) Swayde (236) Lady G (246)
1-IceH2O: DangerDoll (243)
2-DeputyChief: bkw1982 (277) KOTD (315)
1-No-One: nmrsco
Hooked Newbie: ewurm (30)
IceH2O: Mee-Mee (42)
Swayde: Hooked Newbie (119)
Lady G: Charlie_Stubbs (187)

Maybe I've got tunnel vision, but for now I'm going to concentrate on that mee-mee train. I believe there's likely more than one mafia sitting there. I'll start w/ewurm who is my strongest suspect and list others later.

Is my "team" supposed to be in touch with me?

I think you are reading into the few things I have said too much. Honestly, mee mee is the only one I am modestly suspicious, so that's the direction I am going. I will change if I see something that catches me eye, but right now I just don't know people well enough to tell if they're bluffing. Maybe that's the newb card, but it's all I've got.

Why did Charlie die? I thought we only vote for one person?

I believe in all these posts ewurm tries to play the newb and confusion cards. I can understand a little confusion, but this is over the top. I believe he parked his vote on mee-mee as the train was getting started and didn't bother to look elsewhere because to him any innocent gone is good enough.

I vote to lynch ewurm.

 

[plantling]

OOPs. I vote to genetically test ewurm.

But I've also been thinking about Ice, too, Swayde. Guess we were typing at the same time.

 

[Swayde]

Players-------------------------------Day 1 Vote-------------------------------------------------------------------Day 2 Vote
bkw1982----------------Mee(244),DC(277)---------------------------------------------------------DC(404)
charlie_stubbs-----------LadyG(187), Gup(231)---------------------------------------------------
Dangerdoll---------------Ice(243------------------------------------------------------------------------
)DeputyChiefJR-----------Mee(258)--------------------------------------------------------------------DD(561)
ewurm------------------HN(30), Mee(108)-------------------------------------------------------KoTD(549)
guppyguppyfish----------------------------------------------------------
Hooked Newbie-----------Sway(119), CS(155)-----------------------------------------------------Ice(407)
IceH2O------------------Mee(8/11), Nmrsco(216), Mee(349)-------------------------------KoTD(538)
johnlarson66-------------Mee(103)--------------------------------------------------------------------Ewurm(541)
jpappy789---------------Ewurm(266)--------------------------------------------------------------------
KingOfTheDeep-----------Mee(247), DC(315)---------------------------------------------------------
Lady G-------------------Gup(246), Ewurm(337), Mee(351)----------------------------------Ewurm(543)
mee-mee-----------------Ice(42), Jpap(191)----------------------------------------------------------
nmrsco-------------------NoOne(317)------------------------------------------------------------------
plantling------------------ewurm(254)------------------------------------------------------------------
Swayde------------------jpap(130), Gup(236), Nmrsco(302)--------------------------------Ice(572)
ZSandmann--------------ewurm(143)-----------------------------------------------------------------Ewurm(399)

 

[plantling]

Just some thoughts:

The late voters for mee-mee were Ice and Lady G. I think we should also be thinking about why Charlie was tested by the evils. Both Ice and Lady G had run-in's w/Charlie.

Here are two posts that raise suspicion. Both seem to be designed to portray innocence. Who are you two trying to convince??? I guess you must be both innocent, as these posts clearly prove it. Is that the plan??? Not quite convinced yet guys, maybe a few more subltle hints would help. Welcome to my suspect list fellas.

Here Charlie is commenting on HN's post 5 and Ice's post 25.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady G
I find it a little odd you are only suspicious of those who have cast doubt on you, I was implying nothing just noting it that's all. I wasn't hoping others would "hop" on anything just making observations as I also said in my post these are just "thoughts" at this time...but your response is adding to my thoughts. And finger pointing is pretty much all you can do on day one as there isn't much to go on, and is WAAAY better then just casting doubt/votes with no reason.
Why wouldn't i be suspicious of people casting doubt on me. Or people that wanna start trains on me. Can't help but notice HN started a train on me. But the one that starts the train isn't always the one conducting it. You two seem a little eager to get me lynched. If your plan works you better start making excuses.
HN casts doubt on everyone in every game I have noticed, his way of getting responses I believe.
And here a post in defence of your new buddy. Hmmmmmm...how many mad scientists are there?? I think i just spotted two of them.
As for you'r response on Z that is a little "ironic" you call someone out b/c they haven't been posting much...um seems like a little kettle calling here??
So when i'm not turning over stones your pointing fingers at me, and when i am turning stones your pointing fingers at me.


I had the same thought about the "clusters" thing...isn't that what someone last game got in trouble for, and I already commented above on him saying you haven't posted much when he himself has not been adding much so far.
Here's a good one. You made a post alluding that ZSandman and i are connected because we had posted within minutes of each other. You are trying too hard to cast shadows, which is what makes you dangerous.

comments above

Charlie's response to Lady G's post 169

i vote to genetically test Lady G.
So after reading your posts it seems you've pointed the finger at everybody. I suspect the only ones you haven't pointed your finger at are the four other scientists. You are trying to be helpful by casting suspicion at all your eyes behold??? Seems more like trying to get trains started for your pals to ride.

Charlie votes for LG.

Does anyone think that Ice and/or Lady G would have motive for getting rid of Charlie?

 

[Lady G]

Had some time this morning before my 1st job and thought I'd bring DD out of the shadows. She is always a hard read because she doesn't post much and doesn't give much info. But if you group everything together you can see a pattern.

She has thrown suspicion on 5 people I either think or know are innocent

Ewurm leaning INNOCENT

MM INNOCENT

Ice INNOCENT

HN leaning INNOCENT

DC leaning INNOCENT







Then she questions Z on why place an early vote? Its obvious why, they can be removed and it gets people on the defense. The only reason to hold off voting till the end is so you can strategically place your vote on someone without looking to suspicious.





Mixes up the newbs, LG did too.
Its not adding up. Sure we all have our doubts on Day 1. Fingers get pointed but most of us put a vote on someone early for a response.DD didn't do so. I got jumped because I wanted to take DD out 1st day last game, she tried the same thing.

Right now my list is

KOTD
DD
LG
Sway

I've explained everyone but Sway. I'll get to her tonight.

Yes, I mixed up the newbs, I already explained what happened there. Really I don't see how "mixing" up the newbs is a reason to suspect me?

i switched my vote off of her when i started to get second thoughts

i've been innocent i think 4 or 5 games in a row now

the statement in blue makes no sense...

First I have to point out, in a post following KOTD corrected himself he was innocent 3 games in a row. My point was you were saying you weren't sure that MM was evil because she was mafia last game...with this "theory" it is very likely that after you have been innocent for 3 games in a row it's highly unlikely for you to be innocent in this game. That was my point how did it not make since?

there is no point in voting for guppy as she will most likely die tonight..if she gets a post in before night, and you all think she's still mafia..then put a vote in..votes for her now are pointless.

Something I agree with KOTD on!

Just some thoughts:

The late voters for mee-mee were Ice and Lady G. I think we should also be thinking about why Charlie was tested by the evils. Both Ice and Lady G had run-in's w/Charlie.


Here Charlie is commenting on HN's post 5 and Ice's post 25.



Charlie's response to Lady G's post 169


Charlie votes for LG.

Does anyone think that Ice and/or Lady G would have motive for getting rid of Charlie?

Yes, I voted MM late this I have already explained.
As far as my "run" in with Charlie, I never said I was going to VOTE Charlie. All I did was question his game play this time around...as did many others, he went crazy on the fact I would even MENTION his name. This made myself and others wonder even more about him. Believe me I was just as surprised as you the Evils took him out!

 

[Lady G]

Also I would like everyones input on Ewurm? This is the first game I think I've played with newbs..so this is a little hard for me. I really get the evil vibe from him with the posts he's made. I realize though he is new and MAYBE he really just isn't getting the game.
As far as our other newb goes, I am leaning most likely innocent. I do see the "confused" newb in her but she seems to be trying, may be posting things in a bad way but at least TRYING to help the town out
These are just the vibes I am getting on these two and would really like others input on them.

 

[nmrsco]

hey guys Im back. theres not too much to say yet, so Ill keep my mouth shut.

I do see the "confused" newb in her but she seems to be trying, may be posting things in a bad way but at least TRYING to help the town out
others input on them.

She? Im a guy, just to let you know

 

[ewurm]

Players-------------------------------Day 1 Vote-------------------------------------------------------------------Day 2 Vote
bkw1982----------------Mee(244),DC(277)---------------------------------------------------------DC(404)
charlie_stubbs-----------LadyG(187), Gup(231)---------------------------------------------------
Dangerdoll---------------Ice(243------------------------------------------------------------------------
)DeputyChiefJR-----------Mee(258)--------------------------------------------------------------------DD(561)
ewurm------------------HN(30), Mee(108)-------------------------------------------------------KoTD(549)
guppyguppyfish----------------------------------------------------------
Hooked Newbie-----------Sway(119), CS(155)-----------------------------------------------------Ice(407)
IceH2O------------------Mee(8/11), Nmrsco(216), Mee(349)-------------------------------KoTD(538)
johnlarson66-------------Mee(103)--------------------------------------------------------------------Ewurm(541)
jpappy789---------------Ewurm(266)--------------------------------------------------------------------
KingOfTheDeep-----------Mee(247), DC(315)---------------------------------------------------------
Lady G-------------------Gup(246), Ewurm(337), Mee(351)----------------------------------Ewurm(543)
mee-mee-----------------Ice(42), Jpap(191)----------------------------------------------------------
nmrsco-------------------NoOne(317)------------------------------------------------------------------
plantling------------------ewurm(254)------------------------------------------------------------------
Swayde------------------jpap(130), Gup(236), Nmrsco(302)--------------------------------Ice(572)
ZSandmann--------------ewurm(143)-----------------------------------------------------------------Ewurm(399)

I haven't been as good at reading people as I thought. I have my suspicions about KOTD, but I am not locked in. JohnLarson's voting is troubling to me. He was locked in on Mee Mee. Doesn't post much. Is that because you don't need too? You're already aware of who to vote for?

Regarding the three votes against me, I can say that there a lot of people reading into my posts too much, seeing twisted meanings that just aren't there. That has also been my problem, as I just don't have any solid info to go on, so I am looking to hard to find someone.