MAFIA 10: Vampires!

[Lady G]

Dang John you made up for lack of posting didn't ya

There has been a lot of posts, but not as much information as I was hoping for.

The nightly kidnapping is going to be a strange twist. The not knowing who it is, well that is going to take some getting used to.

Is the not posting / not voting and you die rule for every day or just Day One? I thought it was just the first day, but need to check. I wish that rule was on the first page. I will search later.
If it is just for the first day, then what will stop someone from "pretending" to be kidnapped. Right now there are 2 people that could have been kidnapped, we know only one is. We will not know who was. Only the kidnapper will.

I am still suprised I was not staked. I think having all those votes may have kept me from being turned, and hopefully keep me from being turned. I do not think I would turn me with one of the guarenteed turns. Too many people expect me to be scummy.

I think CS is still a good canidate for being a vampire.

My vote is not because he role played. That was day one.

It is the third day I have voted for him and he has been jumping all over the place. He could have been the vote that staked me, but instead threw a vote away. He continues to toss votes out there.

He wanted to be able to say he did not vote for me or think I was even a vampire when I came up innocent.

He has a quote somewhere, I will find it and paste it, but it said something to the affect that he did not think I was a vampire, but forgot to vote for me. I will find it and post. I might be reading it wrong or reading into it.

7) IF YOU DO NOT POST OR VOTE IN THE 1ST DAY/NIGHT CYCLE YOU DIE NO EXCEPTIONS. IF YOU THINK THAT YOU WILL BE MISSING THAT MUCH TIME THEN DON'T JOIN.
Yes the no vot/post thing is for the 1st day only it seems. Hmmm....didn't realize that until you asked about it.
As for Charlies post I found it and have questioned him about it, I found that to be odd too.

I have to say after reading through JL's last posts, he is leaning more innocent to me. Also until now I really didn't see Charlie as much of a suspect, just the one post from him that I questioned him about but after reading through all the stuff JL has posted I am beging to wonder myself.
I will read through everything and update my list in the morning or afternoon tomorrow when I can get back on but for now I REALLY have to get to bed!

 

[Rbishop]

The only reason guppy was named as the kidnap victim on night 1 was because of the tie vote.

I decided since it was tied instead of flipping a coin and since guppy was being kidnapped that I'd just get rid of Bkw and let you see why guppy was saved.

Most likely be the only time you see who was kidnapped.

That's what I was looking for....I knew something was different about the night 1 events. I couldn't reason it out, knowing that rule 3b might apply...

3b) don't say your going to quit as a tactic... YOU WILL BE KILLED OFF AND YOUR ROLE REVEALED.

Just semantics for most probably, but it caught my eye and I couldn't let it go.

 

[Rbishop]

To the Kidnapper:
do you have to use your power?? seems to me its dangerous, and what if you scoop the seer or priest??? are you evil or what??? other than show us guppy was innocent (for now) your power isnt helping us. Maybe just kidnap our lynch victims from now on until you die if you really want to help. Or stop kidnapping people altogether. Anyone else have any ideas on this???

I have been thinking about this also, charlie. The way I read the guidelines, it isn't a one time shot in this particular game. As another side thought, I am considering the potential and the effects of a townie with dual roles, like hunter/kidnapper or seer/kidnapper.....

 

[Rbishop]

He has to kidnap a player a night.

Thanks for the tip, I didn't realize that; the rules make it appear optional. Time to go review those modified kidnapper rules, folks, lots of variables are in there.

 

[Rbishop]

Well, it has been a good read...I will be on more since the weekend is coming up and will post my individual thoughts tonight so we can discuss them before Saturday night voting.

I have uneasy feelings about Ewurm, DD and CS. Feeling pretty nuetral on jl and sploke.

I guess by me posting that it means sploke is the kidnap victim.....

Just a thought...can the kidnapper, kidnap themself....????

 

[IceH2O]

I want to clear some things up and I wish I had reread the rules. But I also posted them early hoping you guys would also catch anything questionable before the game started.

The rule 7 should read:

7) IF YOU DO NOT POST OR VOTE IN THE DAY/NIGHT CYCLE YOU DIE NO EXCEPTIONS. IF YOU THINK THAT YOU WILL BE MISSING THAT MUCH TIME THEN DON'T JOIN.


Then the kidnapper rule should read ( though I did explain it better in the PM to them)

You are the Kidnapper you must kidnap 1 person per night


Hope that clears everything up. Told you my brain was still fried.

 

[charlie_stubbs]

Here is the post. Had doubts I was evil, but forgot to vote for JL (me) in the morning. I think he was on before the lynch with some left field (and worthless) vote for DC.
What i meant was after i read your post in the morning, i meant to change my vote to you as i really didn't get that you were being sarcastic with your ogre reason but i forgot to. When i got home from work it was late, and getting close to night. After changing my vote to you (in case i couldn't vote later, alot was going on here) and quickly skimming the thread and reading your explanation, i believed you weren't as suspicious as i first believed, and that DC may have been trying to get you lynched. I did not believe MM looked as evil as others did. But i really didn't think voting for you was a great idea either. So i voted for someone i thought was evil.
As Mad pointed out, he likes DC's list. DC's list is JL, CS, and sploke.
Until nightfall, you and Sploke were high on my list. Yes i was starting to have doubts about you, but by no means have i moved you to innocent. Of course now that RB has posted i can be sure Sploke is innocent, at least for now.
Well he has doubts I am evil and thinks sploke was kidnapped.
Now we know Sploke was kidnapped. Innocent for now. You on the other hand are removing any lingering doubts you are evil, my toothy friend.
With the choices left on the list, I like it also.

Feel free to vote for yourself Charlie. I think that is the only person you have not voted for yet.
I may have missed your sarcasm the first go round John, but i'm pretty sure i haven't missed it this time.

responses above

 

[Swayde]

I retract my vote on Sploke and I vote to stick a stake into Charlie. I think there have been some pretty convincing cases made against Charlie from people I believe are innocent. I am also leary of DD, RB, Z, Ogre at this time. Sploke's been cleared from list. Obviously I am wrong about at least one person, could even be all of them, but I do feel fairly sure about Charlie. My confidence is pretty shaken after being wrong about Mee-Mee and Sploke =/

 

[Dangerdoll]

ok, Lady, I can understand the nagging suspicion you have but I can asure you that the things you have noted on are merely coincidences and I am not in cohoots with Z. Be careful though, I see that you are trying to team up members, you have to realize that there is also a team of Seer and Hunter that is trying to help save the town and have pretty good powers. The seer can investigate once per night and the hunter can kill at will once during the game. If I am not mistaken, the hunter has not yet used the arrow yet. Ice, can the hunter use the arrow at anytime or only during the night, it doesn't say.
G, I will do my best to explain.

Now what caught my attention was the way you wrote this..Why did you word it as "soon as WE voted MM"..yes I know you both voted the same time but that wording is what got me thinking and looking back at things you both have said. And I found some interesting things when I did...

ok, this here, G is simply an explanation from Z, not sure why he used "we" other than to explain the situation. To look further into this is picking at straws if you ask me.

Ok here DD first post say's it's safe to assume guppy is innocent...then posts
Now she is voting Guppy after she just said that she must be innocent.
You also announce that guppy must be innocent b/c of kidnapping then you come back and post:

Now you too think Guppy is Vamp?

These two posts were made immediately after night when Guppy. I went ahead and paniced when viting guppy, and with 48 hours, I believed yes, I have time to retract if need be.

Then DD comes back again saying NO she doesn't seem Vamp but didn't unvote her.

It was my intention, I see that you don't highlight when I in fact DID retract the vote though. Ah, I see you "couldn't find it"... hmmm

Now you take away your vote, for some reason I missed DD's retract vote but it was after yours.

yeah, for some reason. Seems you are being really thorough, Lady, except how did you miss my retraction being that thorough...

Now is where the MM thing starts...
DD points out this contradiction and your next post you:
So you vote MM and the very next post here is DD doing the same:

The vote for mee-mee was a mistake, yes but due to mee-mee-s confession of the last game where she indicated how she is bad at being bad, her slip up seemed clear to me and I guess to Z and clear to the rest who changed their votes. Was it a mistake, yes, a huge one and for that I am sorry.

Guy's I'm more than a little worried here...you are posting together on MANY things please help me feel better about this.

G, your compilations are weak to say the least and if anything, to say you weren't going to highlight them and then say you just couldn't avoid it is weak as well, I just don't see how things just screamed anything here except the fact of you putting the posts together to try to make them look a certain way. And the attempt is weak as well. However, with such an attempt, I have no choice but to wonder if you were in fact turned. How is the new room rb set up. Did you's all get nicely aquainted yesterday while we were waiting for RB to post after night?

That's what I was looking for....I knew something was different about the night 1 events. I couldn't reason it out, knowing that rule 3b might apply...

3b) don't say your going to quit as a tactic... YOU WILL BE KILLED OFF AND YOUR ROLE REVEALED.
Just semantics for most probably, but it caught my eye and I couldn't let it go.

Night one is gone, rb, why are you still noting on it? We should be concentrating on finding the vamps..... but wait, you already know who they are, don't you.
Just what you were looking for? It took you from 9ish pm yesterday to find this? Oh wait, it took you that long to decide with your vampies just what you were going to say to blow the heat off of you.
I vote to stick a stake in RB

 

[ewurm]

Ok Charlie could you clear something up for me here, if you had doubts JL and MM were evil...why would you post that you forgot to vote JL?? If you thought he wasn't evil why did you intend to vote for him??


Ahh, duh didn't think of that:idea:

First I'd like to thank Ewurm before I post this! Ok now for my thought here on Ewurm, I have been saying he seems suspicious to me and here are just a few examples,
Before this post by Charlie, Charlie had asked him why he (Ewurm) thought JL to be evil. One of Ewurms reasons had something to do with JL's vote for CS, but he didn't answer to who his top suspects were so CS posted:

Instead of just answering this is what he posts???

So because CS wanted to know Ewurms reason to find JL evil he now thinks CS is evil??


Then he post's that he wants to hear from RB or Sploke (ok we all do) nothing really suspicious with that but right after posting this he posts:

Ok?? Well it may just be me but he just doesn't add up to me. Can anyone else give me their feelings on this...am I just looking to hard or does this really seem off?

This will be my last post until Sunday morning. I'll be out of town. I thought it funny that JL said he would vote for the first person to role play, and CS did it right away. I think they may be working together.