Zombies -- Mafia #11

[IceH2O]

Nope, I assumed those that didn't vote were innocent and busy and probably decided another game will come up, so why not take a break instead of playing a "boring innocent" rather than a power role or evil....

If any of these non-posters would have came in at the last 2 hours and voted, they would have been lynched the next day. I am sure they know and understood. Maybe they did not want to play because they did not have a power role or were not a zombie. Who knows.

I love re reading threads.

I might have missed this but I find it strange that JL and DC both had the same idea.

Back with more, sorry but I'd rather make a lot of little posts as I find them then 1 big post that info can get lost in.

 

[Coler]

I've re-read and I have to say I consider that the zombies are playing tight. I really don't have much of a read on this game at this point in the day - I think perhaps voting has been scattered and light.

My list of three suspects is Ogre, DD and Lady G and I feel DD may have been turned last night with Ogre and G as the original zombies (I may have had Lady G and DD in reverse order yesterday at one point but this is how I feel now).

It is worth bearing in mind that we are now looking for 3 votes in the croud and not just 2. History has it that scum votes late on day 1 & 2 in order not to be seen as starting a lynch; I don't think this applies to this game so far though.

 

[Coler]

It would be remiss of me not to say that I am now entering, as is usual around this time for me, the throes of what I now recognise to be my pathological and debilitating paranoia of ice

 

[IceH2O]

After reading the posts of today I've come to this conclusion.

I need strong meds lol. Maybe some good drugs would open my mind to things that I'm obviously missing.

I think JL and DC are to close in thought to not be zombies. Leaning zombie

I think Mad, Ogre and Sway are way off base on DD and LG. I see nothing in their play to suggest evil.

Ogre had me worried for a bit the 1st day but not so much right now. Leaning innocent

Mad is a lot like me and likes to post to get responses. Leaning innocent

Sway I think might have been the turn last night. I'll have to go back and see if her posts have changed. Leaning zombie

DD is always a hard read so I'll watch her posts but I just don't see it yet.Leaning innocent

Bkw I have no read on. His lack of posting, his style, makes picking him almost impossible which really can be a bad thing as it makes us waste an investigation.leaning innocent but could have easily been the turn.

Jpap I lean innocent


LG I think is just knocking on doors, she is all over the place but I think its more because its early in the game and its hard to get a real read. I do like her list for the most part though.Leaning innocent


Ewurm had a rough 1st day in both games I'll lean him innocent as he usually starts coming around in Day 2

Coler hasn't showed me anything to make me think he is a zombie. I think he thinks he had something on Ogre, I did at the time too, but I'm not convinced he was right. Leaning innocent

Ice I know without a doubt is innocent

Looking over my list I feel good about my thoughts.

 

[IceH2O]

It would be remiss of me not to say that I am now entering, as is usual around this time for me, the throes of what I now recognise to be my pathological and debilitating paranoia of ice

LOL May I ask why?

I'm going to go look over some of Sways posts to see if I still feel as though she is the turn or not.

 

[Coler]

LOL May I ask why?

iceophobia - its congenital

I have some thoughts on day 1 votes in general.

I think 2 zombies would be pretty cagey on day 1, especially the zombie czar. They would strongly not want to be in on an innocent lynch if at all possible...they may have voted for each other if neither was in any danger in order to build up cover towards the medium/long term, if one was lynched later in the game.

A scenario in which this would not apply would be if the 2 zombies were very confident players and had a chance to get rid of a player they feared...this was not the case last night (no disrespect to Charlie but he wasn't playing).

I feel therefore that the Charlie votes were likely not the zombies, certainly not the ones that tipped him over, unless JL is a zombie, which makes Ice a real suspect of course. However, I have nothing on ice at this point - it would take another pivotal vote or two to make him a zombie in my eyes.

I can't now remember the day 1 votes, but I will go back and have a read and a think on them, looking for scattered & useless votes, or votes which are not really justified (i.e. 'random' votes - if a vote is made randomly it should always be lifted at some point in the day when there is evidence to go on, however thin, or, votes which are poorly justified).

 

[Dangerdoll]

ok, my suspicions after the days events are on DC because of his "not getting it" in regards to Ice's many explanations of why it was a better idea to vote out one of those that were dying untimely yesterday. I wasn't sure if DC simply wasn't getting it or if he was looking more for a reason to nail someone. I would think by trying to make Ice explain the many times he did, he was looking for a forced slip, if you will..... which can happen to an innocent as well as an evil, pushing as hard as he did with constantly questoning it, IMO served no good.

My major suspicions have to be on Wurm. Wurm has played before, he knows the rules, he knows how to play. He played rather well for his first game and to see the nonsense posts that say basically nothing ring *Z*Z*Z* to me. Why post anything if not to say nothing at all. Is it in case someone pulls up a posting tally, so it looks like you posted multiple times as has been done in games of the past I believe the one you were in. You are pretty bright, wurm, I believe you know how to get through the cracks. I think either you thought of this plan or your 2 zombie pals have, and asked you to make yourself known..... here's some I put together:

My votes were simply to get a response. There was a reason. Ha ving said that, I don't think there is a lot of good info posted so far, as was the case with last game. Day 2 always brings some good info IMO.

oh really...? But there's enough for you to have suspicions and votes for someone.... did you get the response you were looking for?

No he said I can play this game, he didn't say I was good at it. I am learning though.

learning, huh?

I am suspicious, but not enough to vote for Ogre yet. My vote was retaliatory for JL, and I wanted to see his response. I saw it.

What were your thoughts on "his response"?

Well, I was suspicious before, now I am starting to buy into that. You have me thinking LG.

oh really?

I also thought this arguing with Coler was possibly a cover and possibly meant to alleviate suspicion early. My money is on Ogre right now. I just need to see more before the bell.

ok, how long are you riding this and why if your money is on Ogre now, do you still have your vote on JL?

As I mentioned earlier, I did have a reason, I wanted a reaction. My vote is coming, I am focusing on two people.

and which two people are they now? Why are you focusing when focusing gives a tunneled vision?

Forget that first quote, it's left over from my last post.

left over?

seems clear to me that eWurm is simply posting to post. He's all over the place with no real reason for suspecting anyone, no real reason for it.

 

[IceH2O]

Okay I really don't see anything in Sways posts to deem a suspicion of being turned. Good reason right there not to trust anything you think you might have seen and to go back and check. So I lean her back to innocent

Thats going to lean Bkw to evil unless he comes out and shows differently.



This is why I don't think Lady G or DD are evil

I'm not accepting letting them build up their team as much as I'm worried about tearing down our own team. Theres nothing we can do about them grabbing our power roles except to kill off our power roles or get the zombies before they get them. With 2 its hard to find patterns but with 3 it might help put pieces together.

That read wrong or could be taken wrong. I don't want to kill off our power roles. I'm just saying its the only way to prevent them from grabbing them.

Ice, are you suggesting killing of the power roles?

sorry..... I guess I read it wrong.... but the bottom line is, you are thinking it'd be best for the town if they were gone.... they should be helping... oh geez..... complicated, very!

I knew it was getting close to night so I tried to clarify it quickly.

I was explaining that we can't stop the zombies from turning power roles if they find them. The only way we could stop it would be to kill the power roles, which I'm not for doing. Or by getting the zombies before they could turn them. I was in no way advocating killing off power roles. If I were I would be pushing to vote for people other then untimely deaths.

With a day behind us more info should come through and make it easier to find zombies. With 3 innocents gone and 1 turned the odds are better for us to hit zombies.

Normally DD and LG would tear me up for this post, even if they believed my explanation they would have twisted it in many different directions to get me lynched. They said nothing.

 

[IceH2O]

I'm really starting to hate I pulled off of JL last night. I should have stayed on him and hopefully we would have nailed a zombie.

I'm going to jump back on him. He is trying to hard to get me lynched for no real reason.

I vote to lynch JL

 

[Coler]

of late, I like DD's highlighting of ewurm.