Zombies -- Mafia #11

[KingOfTheDeep]

uhhh i think you died

d'oh

i didnt see that post by rb..:nutkick:

 

[johnlarson66]

Here is a part of a post that has not been answered -

I thought I had more votes on me at this time. Also I did not revenage vote anyone. I am not sure who was on me at that time, but I know it was not CS, because he did not vote, so whose company on me did you not like and why did you not vote for them?

Ice, whose company on me did you not like?

Why did you not vote for them?

To refresh your memory, Mad has created a recap of the votes:

It's not as nice as Z's list, but for those interested, here's how voting went on Day 1:

4 Chas - LG(51), Ice(106) , Ogre (171), JPap(191), Swayde(196), Ice(197)
2 JL66 - Coler(31), Ogre(86), ewurm(116), LG(145), Ice(157)
2 Ogre - Coler(79), Coler(121), DD(144)
2 LG - DC(85), Mad(140)
1 Mad - BKW(74)
1 ewurm - JL66(110)
0 Coler - ewurm(25), Swayde(46)
0 JPap - Swayde(84), ewurm(87)
0 Swayde - JPap(180)

Not voting: Chas, KOTD, Guppy

Pretty sure it's accurate, if not, feel free to revise...

So on me at the time of your change was ewurm and Lady G. Why no did you not like their company? Which one did you not like? Was it both?

Your list of three that you would turn that you said is four, but listed 5 names is:

BKW
JL
Sway
ewurm
jpap

Ice, you are the one that saved me, but you think I am already a Zombie, but it was you that swung it from me to CS.

 

[Madcrawdad]

My votes were simply to get a response. There was a reason. Ha ving said that, I don't think there is a lot of good info posted so far, as was the case with last game. Day 2 always brings some good info IMO.

Apparently there was enough info posted to make you somewhat suspicious of Ogre, but you kept your vote on JL, as you love the epic struggle.

I am a little suspicious of Ogre but I am keeping my vote on JL. I have to go to work, I'll be back at 10PM C to discuss tonights findings.

 

[Lady G]

Ok, DC I went through and tried to see anywhere you helped the town, can you see where you may of been any help? Take your name off the post and tell me would you think "innocent" when reading these?

I vote to lynch Lady G.Because she's fooled me far too long

Oh, yeah...good reason. Oops that's right it was for "response" or was to to say "hey she did a good job being bad last time so let's vote her off now..anyone want to follow me?"

Kind of a wasted vote. If he doesn't show in the next hour he dies anyway.

This was in response to Jpap voting Charlie, yes in games past I would of thought the same..but this is a different game and we have to do things a little different on day one this time around.

Wow, what a wonderful plan...(dripping with sarcasm)...So we lynched an innocent anyway and got no real information.....

Ok, does this sound like someone wanting to help..no you know other ppl voted for other ppl they didn't come back with a "in your face" post.

Nope, I assumed those that didn't vote were innocent and busy and probably decided another game will come up, so why not take a break instead of playing a "boring innocent" rather than a power role or evil....

Oh, so if we get a role we don't like we should just not play..you may start of innocent but be changed later so this doesn't make any since to me?? They may of been busy and unable to play for whatever reason but to say they didn't play b/c they were innocent? I like the innocent role, you have to think alot more.

Wow, I feel bad that you guys suspect me for trying to help the town to a victory. I hope this isn't the way you plan to treat all the townies.

And can you tell me HOW you tried to help the town to victory??

Well it looks to me like you can't wait to chalk up 5 and 6 tomorrow as it is, but I guess that's just fine by you guys...Having any cravings for brains lately?

This was to ice, after he said if he could he would of voted all three off..in response to "why Charlie and not the others" Anyway DC how did you come up with this, really..they couldn't of been 5 & 6 tomorrow they were 3 & 4 no matter what tonight, if they wouldn't of been killed tonight they still would of been 3 & 4...they are the reason we have the number we have right now.

Well I'm on the chopping block now for the same reason and I understand it, but I don't expect an apology to stop anyone from going forward with a vote for me.

What???

I didn't say I agreed with it or I thought it wasn't selfish, but it's what runs through my mind when people sign up and get eliminated for not voting. In both games where the rule was instituted all of those that died off were innocent. Maybe people have taken the games for granted. It's not right if they have, but either way Iwanted to focus on the game at hand and get some ideas of people's voting patterns by seeing who they chose. Last game it was just fine for people to go after those voting for those who were about to die and we ended up winning quickly. Why has this changed? Why are we so happy to hand the zombies good, experienced players? I think these are important questions we should be asking as well.

Umm we didn't hand anyone over to them, they died b/c they didn't vote.

So DC, can you tell me HOW you do not look guilty, how you helped the town or tried to help the town?? The only person you EVER named was me, did you look at anyone else, did you think maybe it wouldn't help the town not to mention anything else?

 

[Lady G]

Now for my thoughts on JL,
I didn't go far back on him as I have already said my reasons for day one, this is from day two:

First off, I really thought I was dead and saw no way for me to not be lynched when I was last online. I felt that my response would go on deaf ears.
Response to what JL?

I am surprised to find that I am still alive and that Charlie_Stubbs was lynched. I did not see it coming.

I should thank Ice for the swing vote and jpappy and Swayde for their late day moves. Which seems odd, they were voting for each other and then both went to Charlie. Who was bound to die anyway with a no vote, if he failed to vote.
Here trying to point out Ice, Swayde, and jpappy. Are you trying to rally against them?? Yes Jpappy voted Swayde first and it was obvious it was just to mess with her b/c she voted him, he said his vote would probably change. Swayde changed votes b/c it was decided that instead of taking a chance to lynch a innocent, someone who was going to die an untimely death would be better this day as we stood to loose to many if it wasn't done. No normally I would not agree but in this case yes I did.

Above jpappy even knows that CS has not voted, but still votes for him.
Yes, that was the point givin so why the obvious JL?




DC points this out!
Oh, I think this is why so you can try to make DC out to be some sort of hero, I think you were setting up to defend DC...was he your turn victim?

I thought I had more votes on me at this time. Also I did not revenage vote anyone. I am not sure who was on me at that time, but I know it was not CS, because he did not vote, so whose company on me did you not like and why did you not vote for them?
You are correct there was no revenge vote from you, it was Ewurm to you. You voted b/c he was a vikings fan right?? Much better reason there.


Here he talks about this whole wasted vote thing, because he was going to die an untimely death, but it could be a trick od some sort. I am not even sure of the logic, but at this point Ice seems to think that voting for CS would be bad.
This was to Ice's post about a possible reason CS hadn't voted. How do you not see the logic in what he was saying? Umm it makes since to me, CS waits and sees how the votes go then becomes the "swing" vote for an innocent. No this isn't what happened but it was logical for him to think of that.

Here Swayde votes for CS, also knowing that he might be dying for not voting.
Yes and it was discussed before hand as to why this was happening.

Here Ice goes against what he posted before and votes to lynch a person that has a high chance of not posting, I think there is less than 90 minutes left.
Actually, I believe Ice said he usually doesn't like these kind of votes but because of the way this game is set up, it would make sense. Ice can correct me if I'm wrong here..but that was the jest of it.
If any of these non-posters would have came in at the last 2 hours and voted, they would have been lynched the next day. I am sure they know and understood. Maybe they did not want to play because they did not have a power role or were not a zombie. Who knows.
Or they could of accomplished something before they were lynched. They could of caused us to lose an innocent while they gain a zombie, then by the next night yes, that person may of been lynched but they would gain another in their place. Leaving us down 2 and them up 1 (if they got lynched the next night) other wise they would be up 2.

Like I posted before, I really thought I was dead and am very very suprised to be around for day two.

Based on what is posted above, my top three are:

jpappy789
Swayde
IceH2O

While they kept me in the game for another day, they also conducted a late in the day swing for a player that was most likely going to die for not voting. Even thou other players had not voted, they focused on CS. I am grateful to them for keeping me in the game, but I am not happy that they lynched an innocent and voted for someone that was going to be killed anyway.

I vote to lynch IceH2O

He went away from his own logic. Mostly in belief that DC is a zombie. I really do not see the case against DC and would like to see his.

You see NOTHING at all with DC?

I wanted to quote my own post from earlier today. I really hope people see the humor in my list and did not take it to heart. I have stated many times that day one lists are pointless.

Umm, again this sounds sooo bad even after it has been posted over and over how important day one was this round you still insist on saying it is pointless???

Just one more post then I have to call it a night, but will be online tomorrow from work.

If I was the LZ, I would turn the following three people first:

ewurm
Coler
LadyG

I would like to see a list from people as who they would turn to a zombie if they were the LZ.

Please answer the following:

If I was the LZ, I would turn the following three people first:

I'm sure you would like to see a list of who we would turn, then you can look through for the most likely and pick someone else.

 

[Lady G]

I will be back later with my Ogre post.

 

[ewurm]

Apparently there was enough info posted to make you somewhat suspicious of Ogre, but you kept your vote on JL, as you love the epic struggle.

I am suspicious, but not enough to vote for Ogre yet. My vote was retaliatory for JL, and I wanted to see his response. I saw it.

 

[Lady G]

Guys, might I suggest we (y'all) quit discussing the sherrif's role. You might be giving them some ideas, but you're also giving a free ride to the zombies. All they have to do is follow your advice and then declare themselves the sheriff.

First off, mainly we were saying that the sheriff should not come out and beside that not "defend" someone s/he know's is innocent instead just vote, build a case for someone else. Sure you weren't afraid ppl were helping the sheriff to much, that was my first thougt when reading this post.

I screwed up the "quote" when I went to type but this is from his post 148:

If I am lynched, then (for the record) I do not think that Coler is a zombie at this point. I also like mad, sway, and ice as innocents. BTW: This is valid for today only... stupid zombies.
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Yes, Ice he did point out who he thought to be innocent,

Guys, just so you know we'll lose at the end of the day (after the lynch) on day three if we do not hit a zombie before then. We basically have 3 chances to hit one.

Good
Bad
13
2
-2 (lynch & zombie turn)

+1 turn 1 11
3
-2 (lynch and zombie turn)

+1 turn 2 9
4
-1 (lynch)


turn 3 8 4 half the town is zombie, we lose.

Pointing out exactly how we could "loose" the game, or how zombies could win depending on how you read it.

I'm probably going to switch my vote to charlie... he is (not) playing so uncharacteristically. Usually he's made two or three accusations and vote switches by now.

Let's make it official I vote to lynch charlie

Just to point out, Ogre voted mad long before the end of the night, was he trying to get others to follow him, knowing he is innocent and since he hasn't posted much thinking they would follow, or did he really think Charlie to be guilty?

I'm predicting a sudden surge of votes and I think they'll be zombies and I'm pretty sure they'll decide who goes out tonight.

Just remember charlie's weirdness if he skates today.

Now I'm courious how a "sudden surge" in votes would be zombies, since there are only 2 at that point, they may but I doubt both would jump on the same person, and two is hardly a sudden surge..but just in case he survives remember his "weirdness". Well we will remember something about Charlie..he was innocent, and I have a feeling you may of known this.

LadyG, if we lose three players to nonvoting and we don't hit a zombie today or tomorrow, then the game is over and we lose.

Again quoting how we can loose the game.

This was basically what I said against Coler. I hate to bring it up, but just because someone else will...



The difference was that charlie posted, then vanished. The others were never on.
No Ogre, they did post...everyone at least made a post so no there was no difference look back they are there. Guppy saying "I am here" and kotd posted something then added his "how to kill a zombie" post. May not of been much but they did post.


Ice, if the voting had stayed 3,2,2,1,1... then the zombies could have had almost anyone they wanted lynched... I doubt they would have been so obvious though.



Coler, Mad, Ice

Now, let's see here. I wasn't turned... There wasn't a bodyguard effect and the doc still can't do anything. It's now 3 to 9.

Let's keep a real close eye on each players posts to see if there is a difference between the last post and the first post after daybreak. Maybe someone will see something.

Ummm yeah thanks I would of never thought of that one on my own.

oh and Heroes was awesome!!! I'll try to sneak on during work again tomorrow and maybe again tonight.

The zombies could win on the third night, depending on the mutant's changes to the game.

Oh and for the third time we could loose on the third night...well here he say's the zombies could win. Guess he want's to make sure we know that by night 3 the zombies could win the game.

 

[Lady G]

So with these last postings I think (sure it's obvious) but just in case it is not:
My top suspects would have to be,
JL
DC
Ogre
The only thing with Ogre and why I haven't voted him is the fact that maybe, just maybe his is the closest to innocent of the 3 depending on how you look at his post. After last game, I had Mad as innocent, and DD Vamp I was almost positive with that, then I was turned and found out it was just the opposite. I know by saying this someone is going to say I'm being hypocritical..but it is just the way I feel about it right now.

 

[ewurm]

Well, I was suspicious before, now I am starting to buy into that. You have me thinking LG.