Mafia #14 -- The Play

[johnlarson66]

I am not on any side with Lady G. The fact that we agree on a few things bothers me.

I have her more leaning mafia. Her and Blueiz. Let's not forget about JudgeMax.

I am also concerned about cooldude. I think each mafia team has a noob.

 

[Lady G]

Why do you hope its not a noobian slip? That would be the best break we've gotten this game.

If this was the "best break" we've gotten...why would you not switch over to him...why wait and take out "possible" instead of what you believe to be for sure?

These next to are actually to help my case with Blue. Yes this post has been posted a few times now, but the following that I post was really what I wanted to bring up.

I believe DP is a decoy of some sort. I think hes mafia that has been sent out to draw attention away from the higher ups intentionally. The goofy "blonde" act is so obvious. If DP is innocent, why isnt he trying to help, why does he brush off the town, why was he not prepared to look for the game when he new it was going to be starting? I cant really comment on his posting style in other games, but I can say that a lot of attention has been directed toward him which could have been placed elsewhere. So, has the mafia sacrificed one of there own to get the heat off the big dogs? OR, is DP playing the part that he knows will make ppl think voting for him will be "wasting" a vote so he can bide his time?

My list of suspicisios ppl so far in no particular order:
DP--reason listed above

JM-- for being highly defensive of her innocents and stating several times that she thinks is "innocent" this time so she can say what she wants.

LG-- seems as if a lot is said that has no real meaning, a lot of questions are asked that are..well..silly on occasion becuase if the full context of what is said is taken in then there would be no question as to what is meant. Seems as if LG is trying to make ppl "slip up" through using a confusion tactic.

HN-- Just have a feeling.

CS-- Charlie is Charlie, he can never be trusted

JL-- Just have a feeling.

Since you decided to reference this, I decided to read back through it. You've repeatedly said that you don't know how people play, but yet you point out that Charlie can never be trusted. Isn't that true of everyone in this game? I think there's been alot more info brought out since post 410, but you reference only this? Where's your vote currently?

This was a post from HN (known innocent) he questioned her and what he said made alot of sence so I thought it worth posting.

Jpap,You mean ones like this?

This was in reference to Jpap asking a question about Dj's post and he quoted one of the out there post from Dj.
Again, it's so obvious at this point...why not switch??

OMG it is getting worse and worse for you, dj. First you sputter something off in "hitting" and now you are confessing that you are "going to shut up and get out of view"?? you are new but I am with everyone else, this is looking very mafiaish and think that we should concentrate on dj some for after nights conversation. I don't think anything good can come out of switching votes, it may just be what the mafia wants. Last game, I changed a lot late night and it did me no good but did the witches grand.

Yet you do not switch either.

So I'm thinking DJ is trying to be to obvious now and I feel safe with my Charlie vote.

For a split second I was thinking Charlie might possibly be innocent and was considering a late switch even if some consider it suspicious.

Can I place my lynch vote for tomorrow now?

Bingo!! Charlie was innocent!!!

It appears DP has fallen quiet and DJmajor has taken on the role that DP played at the start of his posting in the game. Highly suspicious behavior. If DJ is paying attention, or even has read the game rules, he should know the differnce between a hit and a lynch. He is taking focus with his nonsense ramblings off the real issue and not giving any input to help us townies oust the mafia.

Add DJmajor to my list of suspected mafia.

My list of suspicisios ppl so far in no particular order:
DP
JM
LG
HN
JL
DJMajor

But instead of going with someone who looked so obviously Mafia, you vote me?

So were Ice, DD and Blue trying to save DJ? At least for one night??? Looking back I can so see this. Ice, and DD normally would of been jumping all over someone posting like Dj was last night but they didn't! Wouldn't it of made more since to switch over and then "save" Charlie for the next night? Maybe he could of posted enough to explain himself.
I think MAYBE he was not on your team...maybe you really believed him to be mafia from the other side, and Dj was on your team and you were hoping that with a two day "night" others would come off him.
Anyone???

 

[johnlarson66]

6 is a pretty long way from 10.

I agree, they were the two highest votes.

 

[johnlarson66]

I thought I was the first to vote for Charlie.

Is there anyone that really thought that Charlie was not mafia?

I think we can all admit that he was playing "oddly". He even admitted he was off. I am hoping he was "the Accident", but who knows. That would explain a lot.

I know I changed my vote to DP, but was really okay with either one going. I then changed it to DJ, with in the last few hours. I have seen swings in the last few hours before, and was suprised that more people did not vote for DJ.

As of right now, I am chaulking both DJ and DP as more of gameplay issues than being mafia, but they are both worth keeping an extra eye on (but who isn't?).

 

[Blueiz]

But instead of going with someone who looked so obviously Mafia, you vote me?

Now its obvious that an innocent was lynched. An innocent that I did not vote for. Isnt it obvious to you that by my not following the majority that my thoughts have substance, thoughts that I have posted?

So, what you are telling me is that Im bad because I did not vote for someone that the majority of others thought were mafia, when indeed that person was innocent? Seems to me as tho the votes that were not in the majority have a lot more substance now, after the fact it is known that we lost an innocent towny, instead of going after ppl becuase they did not vote with the majority.

 

[Lady G]

I'm thinking that we're already looking into DJ (with two votes now), DP and Dc.

My question is why include Ice and Jpappy in this list? Obviously, everyone should be 'looking into' everyone, but Ice and jpappy, so far as I can tell haven't really been on any radars so far. So why bring them into this now?
I wasn't really "bringing" them into anything here, they voted Charlie..now say I left them off....you wouldn't of come out and said why did you leave Ice and Jpap off, no if I am looking into who voted for Charlie, I am looking at EVERYONE not picking and choosing. I listed it to get others opinions on who all voted. I didn't say EVERYONE who voted him was mafia.

I also notice that you seem to have gone into very aggressive mode against blue (along with JL (just not as hard), but this aggressiveness started when you got two votes. Now my vote on you was partially cause I think you are a reasonable candidate, but mainly for the purpose of evening out the votes so some discussion will follow... well boy did it follow...
Umm, I had two votes on me last night also so know having 2 votes on me had nothing to do with my actions today. I feel I have found some Mafia scum and brought it out...the fact wanted to go into a all out war with me just reassures my thoughts. Had NOTHING to do with you and your vote on me.

List time
NOTE: This is NOT a mafia/innocent list. This list is based on tone/quality/volume of posts. There are probably some mafia at both ends of the list. I'm not posting a mafia/innocent list because I don't think that it will be as useful as this list (at this time). Right now, I have almost everyone leaning mafia... probably my top two innocent choices are Ice and Mad.
I agree with the everyone seems mafia!!

A 1 on this list means the posts are low quality, low volume, super defensive or super aggressive, with a minimal use of logic and maximal use of strawmen.

A ten on this list would be a poster that convinces everyone (and is correct) about who a mafia member is
My only question here would have to be how do you KNOW who is correct about mafia...since we have only lynched one and that was an innocent?
Swayde - 4
ogre (I won't evaluate my own posts)
Dangerdoll - 4
lady g - 3
jpappy - 5
madcrawdad - 6
clown lover -5
cooldude - 4
johnlarson66 - 5
jensons - 4
blueiz - 4
deputychief - 4
judgemax - 3
ice - 6
hooked newbie - dead
dwarf puffers - 2
djmajor - 2
charlie stubbs - dead

What I find a little funny here is you say your list is based on who is correct on mafia, you have Ice as a 6....he voted Charlie (innocent), You have CL 5, again voted Charlie (innocent), Jpap voted Charlie he is a 5. Then your next highest numbers 4-DD, DC both voted Charlie also.
So Orge to me it looks as though you are a little bit backwards here on who is right about mafia??
No..I don't think all these to be mafia...I would say

 

[Lady G]

Now its obvious that an innocent was lynched. An innocent that I did not vote for. Isnt it obvious to you that by my not following the majority that my thoughts have substance, thoughts that I have posted?

So, what you are telling me is that Im bad because I did not vote for someone that the majority of others thought were mafia, when indeed that person was innocent? Seems to me as tho the votes that were not in the majority have a lot more substance now, after the fact it is known that we lost an innocent towny, instead of going after ppl becuase they did not vote with the majority.

No, Blue again you are bringing out something that is not there, it had nothing to do with voting Charlie..it was the fact you didn't vote for someone standing out so much...instead you went with someone only one other person was voting on at the time...you maybe could of saved an innocent though by changing onto an obvious suspect.

 

[Lady G]

Lady G , you are making a big mistake.

Why is your "team" talking about HITTING me now that I am out and posting about them? Yes, Dj this would be a HIT.

 

[Blueiz]

You are obvious to me Lady G.

 

[Dangerdoll]

um, Lady, I already stated my reasons for not switching my vote to dj yesterday. If you need me to explain, which I believe you might since you haven't noticed already, I was against late switching because of how it did me no good in the witch game. I am trying to win this one and not rush off to vote on people. I thought it was better if we got such strong feelings, it may be a scape goat for charlie. If that were the case, I thought it would be good to talk more about it after night.