Mafia #15....The Play....

[Lady G]

Well, I guess I'll start with my thoughts on this whole MM, Mzj, Weezer, brains thing.
Umm, ok now even more confusion about it, is my first thought. I could possibly see MM logged on as Weezer by mistake I suppose...BUT if it was her why wouldn't she just say sorry guy's I logged on and didn't realize I was on Weezers account...that would of cleared everything up right then and there, and really I would think what she would of done if it had happened, especially since it started such a mess. So I tend to think know that is not what happened...but it was a good thought non the less.

As far as a list, I am tired and have to get up early to get kids off to scholl so I'm not going into long reasons but, well I would have to say:

Brains-mafia for obvious reasons

JL-I believe to be mafia also, not only is he RPing more than normal, but his posts are so off to me, in one post he says he doesn't see anything mafia about Brains, then says he doesn't like mystery players and votes him, there are many other posts but at the moment those are most resent and in my head.

Blue-She just hasn't posted much of anything and I do believe her mafia once again.

Bkw-Barely here, I even forgot he was playing and well I am thinking Mafia, since when I played w/ him and was evil w/ him this is exactly what he did.

CCM-Never played w/ before but I have to say leaning mafia at this point.

Coler-Something is not sitting right with me about him, but last time I played w/ him I felt that way and he was innocent, I believe.

KOTD-Hasn't posted much but what he has posted, seems thought out so less mafia then others.

HN-Seems to be trying to help.

DD-Well, honestly I have to apologize to her, I do believe I over reacted with you and I am sorry. I am still unsure but leaning less mafia.

MM-Hasn't been on much and have no read on her really

Plant-I have tended to go back and forth with her

Z-Hasn't posted like usual but he did say he wasn't going to be on much at first. His resent post tends to be pro-town, but am waiting on thoughts with him at this time.

Jo-Hasn't posted enough for me to get a read on either.

Ice-I have to lean innocent, I see nothing really mafia about him.

Jmax-I have been going back and forth with her too.

Charlie-Even though he seems to think I was implicating him, I have him more innocent at this time.

Well, I NEVER claimed to be logically sound:y220d:

:lol: I'm with ya there Jmax!!!

 

[Lady G]

I can't vote to lynch Lady G, I do think Brains is mafia, but I cant find enough evidence to support my view yet. I need to re read all the posts, and I'll get back to you on why I think he's mafia

So, in case I can't log on tomorrow (spent the entire day traveling to California today), I vote to Lynch Brains

Ok, so why can't you vote me?? Not that I want you to, it's just odd to say that.
You can't find enough evidence to support your view on Brains, hmm that's funny cause I think everyone else has.

Wow...very odd post, yeah I'm comfortable with my thought of you as mafia.

Now I'm off to bed and will see ya'll tomorrow!

 

[IceH2O]

I can't vote to lynch Lady G, I do think Brains is mafia, but I cant find enough evidence to support my view yet. I need to re read all the posts, and I'll get back to you on why I think he's mafia

So, in case I can't log on tomorrow (spent the entire day traveling to California today), I vote to Lynch Brains

Why can't you vote for LG?

Why do you think you need to build a case on Brains when its been presented numerous times.

Actually I don't care about your brains statement.

Why can't you vote LG?

 

[IceH2O]

I've been thinking about the Brains/Weezer/MM post.

If it was MM accidentally posting on Weezers account why would she bring up quotes of votes on Brains 2?

Either MM is Brains 2 and Weezer is playing MMs SN or Weezer just screwed up.

Either way they are still mafia and my vote is sticking.

 

[IceH2O]

Good run down Ice, while brains is most obviously Mafia there are still 7 more to be found, by tracking who is after who we can begin to make connections. But it is tough as there are really four teams to deal with.



No one else caught this part? I got a chuckle out of it. This everyone is posting their theories I'll get mine out there. Look at the type, bolded blue. Who else types in bolded blue? RB. :lipssealedsmilie:



In JM's defense since the "List That Shall Not Be Named" she never tells everything she thinks she knows. We always have to wring her like a dish rag to get thoughts from her. I do not think brains is MM. I think it is either Weezer or someone Rb asked to play and Weezer just chimed in at a bad time (or was MM), or it is Rb as I suggested above.

I wasn't really trying to make a connections list though I guess later in the game we could look back at it. But if you look its mostly vocals on vocals and the quiet ones are still scarce. The list was more to LGs comment that no one was looking anywhere but at Brains.

Then you try to say that the line about single mom, working p/t and posting bolded blue is someone that you don't mention.

Then in the next post you say you believe its Weezer or someone else. Which is it? Does Weezer post in bold blue?

You've moved up my list. As Coler has said, anyone that can't see its Weezer is suspicious. Why would Weezer post what he did if he wasn't brains? Why would he be concerned about who was voting brains and the reasons used for it.

 

[joander123]

CC- where have you been? It has been mentioned a thousand times why brains is suspected mafia, but you have to go back and re-read to find it? Thats either some serious mafia skim reading, or simply posting before being caught up.... which both to me smell mafia and do little good for the town. Another thing is that you "feel like brains is mafia"? Well why do you feel this way? Simply because everyone else has voted for him... and youd like to follow suit while sticking to the shadows as much as possible.... and not even have to come up with your own reasons?

I think i have a candidate for day number 3....

 

[charlie_stubbs]

I can't vote to lynch Lady G, I do think Brains is mafia, but I cant find enough evidence to support my view yet. I need to re read all the posts, and I'll get back to you on why I think he's mafia

So, in case I can't log on tomorrow (spent the entire day traveling to California today), I vote to Lynch Brains

ok i have a question. that is assuming you won't skim by this post.

Why can't you vote Lady G? You are a troublesome player. You seem quite disinterested in the game. At times I see you lurking, but you post nothing. If you're innocent, i don't think you care if we lynch you. If you're a scumbucket, i don't think you care if we lynch you. This is frustrating at best. If you're a townie, do something to gain some credibility. Start knocking on doors. Turning over stones. Beating bushes. Kicking weasels. Help us find the scumbags.

 

[ZSandmann]

I can't vote to lynch Lady G, I do think Brains is mafia, but I cant find enough evidence to support my view yet. I need to re read all the posts, and I'll get back to you on why I think he's mafia

So, in case I can't log on tomorrow (spent the entire day traveling to California today), I vote to Lynch Brains

We can vote for anyone CCM, why can you not vote for LG??? This is a very strangely worded statement.

I wasn't really trying to make a connections list though I guess later in the game we could look back at it. But if you look its mostly vocals on vocals and the quiet ones are still scarce. The list was more to LGs comment that no one was looking anywhere but at Brains.

Then you try to say that the line about single mom, working p/t and posting bolded blue is someone that you don't mention.

Then in the next post you say you believe its Weezer or someone else. Which is it? Does Weezer post in bold blue?

You've moved up my list. As Coler has said, anyone that can't see its Weezer is suspicious. Why would Weezer post what he did if he wasn't brains? Why would he be concerned about who was voting brains and the reasons used for it.

Sigh, please reread that post Ice, I maybe wasn't clear as I should be. I agreed it is most likely Weezer but if it is someone else that RB posts in bolded blue. I was suggesting it may be RB teasing us. I agree it doesn't matter who it really is, they are lieing or at the very least not clarifying things as they should want to, and that is very Mafia, and very worthy of my vote. I think you are Innocent Ice, I think you did a great job for the town by catching that post, and I wish you could see that I am trying my best to come up to speed.

Now let's find the others. CCM is looking good as a next possible target. That recent post is rubbish, why even say something like that?

 

[plantling]

brains2 (6) by ice 280 coler 284 joan 297 DD 298 zsand 298 jl66 380

Fairly similar to my list, interesting..

So what do you think about coler and z who also voted for you, Brains?

 

[charlie_stubbs]

Enter Sandman, by Charlie Stubbs

Here i have assembled all of ZS's posts. It wasn't hard. There are 12.

Sandy opens the doors to the SoCal Drill-Yo-Grill, Less than Nil, What A Thrill, Face Art Flair Shop and Florist

Interesting the way the regular cast flew out the gate. Afraid as I said earlier I'm not going to be much help Day 1, but I will redouble my efforts upon return. This is going to be a really fun round and after sitting out the last game I feel reenergized. I want to get a vote in so I won't UD but I hope I am able to catch up on Sunday and cast a legitimate vote.

I vote to lynch plantling



Just strange to tsk tsk and mentor ccm and not mention Ice at all.

Here is his first post. Apologizing for not being helpful day 1, and promising to redouble his efforts on Day 2. Votes for Plantling to avoid a UD, citing "mentoring" and Plants failure to mention Ice in the post.

Ogre thinks he has some kind of tell on me from the Witches game.

In response to Ogre's claim he thinks ZS is innocent.

Hi everyone. I just got back in and have been reading as fast as possible while absorbing the info. The brains2/weezer thing is concerning, but I don't know what to really think of it yet. It does make me feel confident however that either brains2 OR Ice are Mafia. BUT Ogre I think showed his cards however, and I feel pretty sure that he is Mafia. I promise to be more helpful from here on.

I vote to lynch Ogre

Here he notes that either Ice or Brains is mafium. He notes he is concerned about the Brains/Weezer thing.

Sorry I retract my vote on plantling, and vote to lynch Ogre

Votes Ogre. At this point, the whole town is voting Ogre, with a couple exceptions. Better late than never.

Ice clearly didn't make it up by the way he reacted. I think if and when we figure out brains2 affiliation we will know Ice's. And I agree if Ogre is Mafia, brains2 probably is as well. But the teams ans the logistics of this game are confusing to me a bit. I'm bending my logic to try and work it out. Yes, I said I was confused, quick someone quote that.

Here he states tht he believes Ice did not make up the post. Again he states if we find out Brains affiliation, we will know Ice's. He says if Ogre is mafium, then Brains is too. And because he asked for it, he states he is confused.

Yay Town!!! My wife stole the computer to look at blinds, bleh, and now Amazing Race is on. HN I have been at an engagement party/ camp out all weekend.

Reaffirming the reasons for his first round bye.

Yes I am suspicious. I can show you my weekend activities if you'd like to see them. I've read up but will be doing a better reread tomorrow. I read as quickly as I could to get in my vote before Night. My suspects would be brains as I said before Night, plantling, the non-vote on CCM and early accusations, and charlie - kicking lots of weasels but not starting the kicking, he is following more than he usually does. See how he followed you when you questioned me?

I vote to lynch brains2

Let's make it two in a row.

Here he admits he looks suspicious, but can offer proof of his activities. Noone has really given him a hard time about his lack of posts, and IMO his "excuse" has been widely accepted, yet he offers proof to help prove it. He names 3 suspects:
Brains- 90% of the town has named brains. This name adds credibility.
Plantling- I don't see anything scummy about plantling yet. There are better suspects at this point IMO
Charlie- says I'm following as his reason. So, far I have voted Ice, then CC. Noone else had voted for those two when I did. I then moved my vote to Ogre, who already had votes, but I built a case before i moved my vote to him. So who was I following??? From where i stand, you followed the whole town onto Ogre. <insert kettle/pot analasis here>

It could be called following but for now it is my top pick. I have loads of time to reread and reassess, but I think brains might as well have a paved path to his door, much the same as Ogre did. This game format makes it very tough for the Mafia I would think. They normally rely on the extra bit of insight they have.

Here he admits to having re-read and re-assessed the thread. Brains has paved a path to his door he says.

Guys I told you I was gone all weekend. I'm playing differently because I've not been playing. I do want to help the town, and yes I've been useless. It sucks being so outspoken as when I am really busy I can't relax at all or I get ran on a rail for it. Guess I should of sat this round out, but I really do want to play. I'm sticking to my suspects. brains, plantling, charlie. If plantling is Mafia I believe CCM is as well. We have to be careful though, because there is a Townie team as well. I don't feel Ogre was in the communicative Mafia group, and he tried too hard to let them know who he was.

This is in response to others stating he is playing differently. Somehow he has linked Plantling to CC. I didn't see a connection, in fact didn't Plantling build a CC case???

Plantling, you mentored CCM, it was pretty clear to me. Maybe it was altruistic, I'll have another look but you even agreed with me when I voted that it was worthy of scrutiny. I owe your case more attention and I'll do that tonight when I have my good notes with me. That Day 1 vote was just there to prevent me from UDing, I told you that when I placed it, but I feel there is some merit to it, it wasn't a throw away.

Here he claims Plant mentored CCM. I don't see a solid connection but he has claimed to have reread and reasessed the thread. Maybe I'm blind.

LG, as far as DD "mentoring" Charlie. That doesn't fly, neither has to mentor the other they are both established players. You have to overlook their sweet nothings to figure out where they fall. I don't understand why you would make so much of that. I have DD leaning Innocent right now. Time will tell.

**** straight. Tell her Z.

Charlie, yep I'm reading, but I do need to reread as time permits, I promise I'll be up to speed before Night 2. Keep kicking weasels, I want to see who you think is kickable. Hell, kick me I need it.

Remember the post where he said he had loads of time to re-read and re-assess???? Here he is promising to get caught up by night 2. This is after I called him on his statement I followed HN, when i actually disagreed with HN. Suddenly he needs to re-reread and re-reassess.

I'm not trying too hard to do anything to you plant. Why the vigor? No one is even listening to me right now. As I said, I am voting for brains today unless something better comes along, but I feel that is a strong vote and I am happy with it.

He has clearly pushed a link between Plant and CC.

Good run down Ice, while brains is most obviously Mafia there are still 7 more to be found, by tracking who is after who we can begin to make connections. But it is tough as there are really four teams to deal with.



I wouldn't say she is all over the place but she is being extremely quote happy, I don't mind that when building a case, but on Day 2 in a game format like this quoting every one of someones posts is redundant and uneeded IMO. I can summarize without pulling all those posts.



Mike was behind your lynching in that game but your RP is first class and I really enjoy it. Keep it up please. You and Charlie kill me.


No one else caught this part? I got a chuckle out of it. This everyone is posting their theories I'll get mine out there. Look at the type, bolded blue. Who else types in bolded blue? RB. :lipssealedsmilie:

CCM has not even posted today and they are the only one that sticks out to you? Wha????

As you said, sarcasm does not translate to text, I read this about 4 times before "getting" that you were joking. I was thinking, WOW.

In JM's defense since the "List That Shall Not Be Named" she never tells everything she thinks she knows. We always have to wring her like a dish rag to get thoughts from her. I do not think brains is MM. I think it is either Weezer or someone Rb asked to play and Weezer just chimed in at a bad time (or was MM), or it is Rb as I suggested above.

Whew!!! Caught up now. Hoorah!

Hoorah!!! He's caught up!!!! Now that he has read the thread fully, he seems to have lost his understanding of Weezergate. Now it could be RB. Or someone else. That means Ice must have made the post up doesn't it Z?

And everyone's asleep...

i don't think my vote is needed on Brains, but i assure you it will move there if it is. I'm gonna follow this weasel back to its hole.

i retract my vote for CC, and vote to lynch ZSandman