Mafia 17: Vampires

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dito

Thanks, ladies and Fungi. She's not quite how I want her, so I may change her later when I have time.

 

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Niko, I can handle all the heat you want to send my way, so bring it on as I have nothing to hide. If you would read and pay attention you would know that I put you on a list giving reasons why I thought you were a Vamp while you made your case against me (Which was full of holes, btw. Nice try, though .) You even quoted another of my posts stating I was suspicious of you in your case against me. I voted for you because you were one of the main pple that picked and picked on Kuhli and it looked like all fun and games on your part (as Kuhli expressed his frustration of being picked on in two seperate posts) until you voted for him.

Then as others have said you're a smart guy. How could you still think there were only 2 Vamps after Ice's post explaing the turns? Could it be because you wanted us to think you were innocent since you didn't know about the turn? And/or possibly because you want to mislead pple about the number of Vamps running around? And then, even after Charlie explained his post about the Toothie friend comment, you still tried to put a twist on his words.

And additionally you did single me out citing no attention is being paid to me when just the day before I had gotten 2 votes from JM and Jp (Though they retracted their votes). You even told JM you were not worried about me and that you thought I was just "banging on doors" to get responses (post 359). So what in the world happened to change your mind? The same morning that you think I've been low on ppl's radars (post 559) I answered your post about the number of possible Vamps (532), made a post to Jo (544), and made a post to Fungi (547). Was it one of those posts that got you deciding I needed more attention? Why didn't you mention Jo, Fungi, JL, Andi, or any of the other players who pple have not been talking about much?

So read this post carefully if you want to know the real reason why I voted for you, so you won't have to go on fabricating other reasons.


LOL, Chaz. I had to read the post a few times also, but I think Fungi is trying to say that just because Niko stated that RB and I have a relationship and then it turned out RB is voting the same way as I am doesn't automatically make Niko's assessment true. Also Fungi prefers to go on evidence and not just some trumped up idea, so he is going to go review our posts.


This made me laugh. Don't ever change, Charlie.

You see, this is what is making you look very suspicious indeed..I make a post that is not directed at you, but at Bob Bishop, yet you feel the instant need to jump to his defence and respond?

Are you responding on behalf of the vamp clan?

You keep bringing up the "evidence" that you feel you have against me, when in all reality, its very flimsy indeed..effectivly, you dont have a case against me which is why your clutching at straws..You feel the need to "try" and raise a case agianst me simply because i am building a very strong one agianst you and Bob, and yes, i put you two together in the same sentance....Whatever responses you come out with are just being seen as retaliation posts...I feel its my job as a townie to build cases against people who i think are vamps, if the case falls apart (which this one has not) then, onto the next suspicious person on my radar...

 

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dito

Care to share some thoughts on who the vamps are in the town Andi? or just continue sitting hidden in the sidelines? Whats your suspect list and why???

 

[andi872]

Given that Kuhli turned out to be innocent (as tears stream down my face for voting an innocent for his guilty behavior) "I'm so sorry Kuhli" at least one of the others whom voted for him is logically speaking a vampire, I know I'm not one as I bite in to another slice of my garlic pizza, and KOTD is no longer in the game, that leaves Jo (who either changed vote to another to lessen suspicion or is innocent, I'll go with innocent for the moment). That leaves Niko, Fungi, and CL. So I will be watching to see what happens, cause I doubt both vampires voted for the same innocent, but logically we have at least one in the names above.[/quote]
Me trying to narrow the list of possable vampires

Our list have Fungi in common....hmmmmmmm

brains2, we also have another common name on our list.

Oh is Niko = atnixon, i wasnt sure.....It does make you think. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Clarification if common list

I also think Clown-Lover is a good suspect. Really at this point, most everyone is a good suspect and those that are not are good suspects are also, because they are not suspected.

Ok thats not helping I'm trying to narrow the list not make it longer.....lol

Here are some posts Niko made before and up to voting Kuhli.

Niko gives Kuhli a hard time about not ever having touched holy water and teases Kuhli about blackout curtains.
More harping on the holy water and the pix that Kuhli took
More teasing of Kuhli on his hummus dip and a possible glass of "red" wine to go w/it.
Here Niko says Kuhli is digging his own grave w/his posts (while Niko himself is one of the ones egging Kuhli on.)
Here Niko jokes about the blood spatter on the dictionary
And finally Niko votes Kuhli. No elaboration, just the usual statement about subject to change. But we all know Niko never did change. Why should he if he's gonna nab an innocent, right?
I also agree Niko would make a good pick for an LV. Either way, I sense he's got something to hide.
I vote to stick a stake in Niko.

Good case here, this does show how Niko could have been framing an innocent.

So you're not suspicious of Niko, you just thought you'd mention 2 of his posts that you think kinda casts him in a bad light? Is this some sort of light distancing? :lipssealedsmilie:

Also good point!

and this is why I vote to stick a stake in Niko

 

[plantling]

dito

I was looking through the thread as night fell and thinking, "If i was LV, who would I chose?"

I thought to myself, "Andi is perfect. Newbs can survive along time with a seasoned vet guiding them."

I thought, "Mod's are too likely to be investigated. Again it's more likely the Det. will investigate repeat players or Mods. While a Mod may be LV or the first minion, it's unlikely to be the first turn."

These thoughts are just my opinion, but it could be helpful if all the innocents consider who they would have chosen, no long lists, just one person and a reason. Vamps please disregard this notice.

I would have chosen Andi, because she is flying under the radar and leaving us no tracks to follow.

Nice train of thougth, Charlie. I would like to hear a response from you Andi, as you have been very quiet, indeed.

 

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Given that Kuhli turned out to be innocent (as tears stream down my face for voting an innocent for his guilty behavior) "I'm so sorry Kuhli" at least one of the others whom voted for him is logically speaking a vampire, I know I'm not one as I bite in to another slice of my garlic pizza, and KOTD is no longer in the game, that leaves Jo (who either changed vote to another to lessen suspicion or is innocent, I'll go with innocent for the moment). That leaves Niko, Fungi, and CL. So I will be watching to see what happens, cause I doubt both vampires voted for the same innocent, but logically we have at least one in the names above.[/quote]
Me trying to narrow the list of possable vampires



Clarification if common list




Good case here, this does show how Niko could have been framing an innocent.

Also good point!

and this is why I vote to stick a stake in Niko

Can i ask why your not posting your own thoughts rather than quoting and agreeing with everyone else?

 

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Is someone pulling your strings Andi? when asked what "your" thoughts are and you just post someones and say "I agree" starts to sound like someone is pulling your strings...

 

[andi872]

Nice train of thougth, Charlie. I would like to hear a response from you Andi, as you have been very quiet, indeed.

Andi sleeps at night, got to work at 7:50am and took me that long to read through all the post....lol, and was baking last night

Can i ask why your not posting your own thoughts rather than quoting and agreeing with everyone else?

Is someone pulling your strings Andi? when asked what "your" thoughts are and you just post someones and say "I agree" starts to sound like someone is pulling your strings...

No Strings, what was stated above followed with my logical suspect list of Niko, Fungi, and CL.
Planting post showed logical suspicion of Niko.
Fungi looked to be falling in to the trap that our innocent had of appearing guilty while innocent.
CL - I had not seen enough evidence to go with guilty or innocent

 

[plantling]

You see, this is what is making you look very suspicious indeed..I make a post that is not directed at you, but at Bob Bishop, yet you feel the instant need to jump to his defence and respond?

Are you responding on behalf of the vamp clan?

You keep bringing up the "evidence" that you feel you have against me, when in all reality, its very flimsy indeed..effectivly, you dont have a case against me which is why your clutching at straws..You feel the need to "try" and raise a case agianst me simply because i am building a very strong one agianst you and Bob, and yes, i put you two together in the same sentance....Whatever responses you come out with are just being seen as retaliation posts...I feel its my job as a townie to build cases against people who i think are vamps, if the case falls apart (which this one has not) then, onto the next suspicious person on my radar...

Excuse me, Niko, I didn't realize you were just speaking w/RB. I took that last post that I answered to be directed partly if not mostly at me. Didn't others get that, too. Well, when you try to misrepresent me or cast me in a bad light, I will respond to those accusations. Also, as I have stated, I did not defend RB in my posts you quoted in your case. I stated I don't think HN is Vamp, so I really don't believe their argument was staged (You kept implying otherwise, btw). Also I said if one of the two is a Vamp, it would be RB, though I don't think he would be the LV.

Also, if you will go back and read my response to your case against me where I commented in purple, then you will see that your case for me is quite full of holes. I wouldn't call it a strong case by any stretch of the imagination. As for a case against RB, go for it. He's on my watch list, too, but your recent unfounded accusations of me and you have yet to answer my questions regarding your weird turn around concerning me, has put you at the forefront of my list.

 

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To answer your question, i am going through the people who i think are vamps, you were next on the list...Question answered !!!