Mafia who done it! The Play

Originally Posted by Hooked Newbie
bkw- How did I make Ice & CL look guilty exactly? They actually are the closest in my mind to innocent right now. Ice, because I think his posts have been different from past games when I've always tended to suspect him (again, if he's playing me he's doing better than ever). Cory, I think is innocent because if he would have really looked at jpappy's post, he should've seen the implications.

You didn't come out and say they were guilty, but you called them out on a possible connection. If you insinuate a connection between two players that's the same as calling them guilty.


That's why I went after him and tried to play that post down. Those that didn't weigh in at all on the shading post are shady to me (pun intended) because I think the mafia were probably discussing it behind closed doors and wouldn't want to let on that they caught it.


So let me get this correct, to play a post down you went after CL, an honorable thing to do. Although i kinda see it as scummy, after cl pointed out im sure everyone was thinking the same thing and no amount of playin it down would help. If the mafia read the CLs post then the nail was in the coffin. I think you were just tryin to set yourself up. Make it look like you were tryin to help JP...........and that's exactly what you're doing now.

My vote on Emo was because I read his post as an admission. Period. I read it wrong and am sorry, but other than the numbers thing, I'm ok with not having to read his posts anymore. Trust me, if I was mafia and had to choose between Emo and Ice as innocents... Ice would be gone right now. Thanks for the vote though. I was feeling kind of left out. Any other suspects or actual thoughts that might help us out?

If it was a mafia decision to hit ice i would agree with you. In the matter of votes i dont think so. The mafia had to hide behind something for their night one votes, and the emo thing was an easy out. This leads me back to my post. Either Ice is mafia and you helped him out, or Ice is innocent and it was a setup to get rid of ice later. In either one you hide behind the Emo confession post. Which you're doing right now



Just my thoughts. I think you're a good solid vote.

HN is my number one vote.

LC is my number two. still playing differently then before, and i agree with CL that Jmax sending him a READ IT!! pm could mean he really needs to read his pm.

Mad its been awhile since i actually played with you but you seem suspicious.


I feel pretty strong about the first two, mad is just a feeling.

Cl-you pointed out the Jp thing and the LC thing. Both good catches, i dont know if a mafia would pointed out either. Im leaning innocent.

I hope this works... I hate the commenting within a quote though I do it myself sometimes.

1. If I mention that two players appear innocent it's the same as calling them both guilty?! I call everyone out. You included.

2. I went after Cory to get a reaction and hopefully detract from the jpap post. Cory's response led me to believe that he wasn't evil (maybe a bit too "enthusiastic" though). Why so jumpy about the fact that you supposedly didn't notice it?

3. I just don't get what you're trying to say here... again, Ice and I are either innocent or guilty. Go back to your chat room and come up with something that makes sense...

I'm not hiding behind anything, I'm right here. Quit regurgitating past cases and make your own (original) on me if you think I'm guilty. You seem so sure of what "I'm doing right now"... So what is it? I'll give you a clue... I think I'm outting scum.
 
I hope this works... I hate the commenting within a quote though I do it myself sometimes.

1. If I mention that two players appear innocent it's the same as calling them both guilty?! I call everyone out. You included.

2. I went after Cory to get a reaction and hopefully detract from the jpap post. Cory's response led me to believe that he wasn't evil (maybe a bit too "enthusiastic" though). Why so jumpy about the fact that you supposedly didn't notice it?

3. I just don't get what you're trying to say here... again, Ice and I are either innocent or guilty. Go back to your chat room and come up with something that makes sense...

I'm not hiding behind anything, I'm right here. Quit regurgitating past cases and make your own (original) on me if you think I'm guilty. You seem so sure of what "I'm doing right now"... So what is it? I'll give you a clue... I think I'm outting scum.

1. you didnt mention CL or ice as innocent. You pointed out after they both voted for Andi that there maybe something to them voting at the same time. Like i said trying to point out a connection between two players is like calling them guilty. Did you not read the post were i wrote that?

2. Think about this. How can you play down a post if you keep bringing it back up. going after cl about pointing out the shading keeps the information fresh. You might as well pointed an arrow to it. IMO you went after CL to setup cover

3. Did you miss my post?
I still believe there were atleast 2 mafia on emo. A few scenerios.

1) Ice is mafia and he jumped on Emo cause of "tht post". With help from his crew they take out an innocent and save himself, all the while they have a good excuse why they voted for emo.

2 ice is innocent, and the mafia helped ice lynch emo with an excuse of "that post" to later back em up to why they voted emo. They'll then turn around to try and used the info against ice.

IMO either one is possible. The big unknow being, is ice innocent or guilty? Either LC or HN, or both, IMO is maifa.

And it is original cause i posted my case before Ogre did, or maybe you skipped over that too


So lets recap.
1.HN says he called them innocent, when indeed he did post that Ice and CL might have a connection because i they both voted for ANdi. I repeat saying someone votes are coordinated is like saying their guilty cause only mafia can talk to coordinate.

2. I really want you answer this one. How can chasing after CL about the shading play off a post. All you're doing is bringing is it back up. I say you were just settin up cover for yourself.

3. I guess you skipped over the post i posted before ogres.

Seems like 3 strikes to me
 
Had it not been for Emo's posts, mine would have stayed on Rb. By the time of Emo's "enlightenment", it was too late to do anything.

2. I went after Cory to get a reaction and hopefully detract from the jpap post. Cory's response led me to believe that he wasn't evil (maybe a bit too "enthusiastic" though). Why so jumpy about the fact that you supposedly didn't notice it?



I'm not hiding behind anything, I'm right here. Quit regurgitating past cases and make your own (original) on me if you think I'm guilty. You seem so sure of what "I'm doing right now"... So what is it? I'll give you a clue... I think I'm outting scum.

Seems like you're hiding behind emo's exposing post, and the fact that you tried to protect us from the big bad mafia by distracting attention away from the shading by going after CL....the person who pointed it out.

Smells like mustard to me.
 
Wow, this is the oddest circle I've ever seen...seems like everyone has their own opinion on who's on which team...And we've got to come up with a vote tonight...one thing I have noticed is this:

Most the people actually playing are tossing their accusations around at multiple people...only a couple are fixating on one person, and trying to pound that accusation into the ground...Many people say that's what gave me away back when I was Mafia...so I feel it's a good reason to vote for Bkw. Besides that, he probably assumed Beth's vote wouldn't count and was trying to guarantee the lynch on the strongest Innocent we probably have this game.
I vote to lynch Bkw

I don't know where HN stands...he's said some things that have made me look at him closer, but the way Bk is nitpicking every little comment trying to make HN look bad just doesn't look Innocent to me...regardless of which side HN is on. I'd expect an innocent to go after more then one person.

I still think RB is a good target, he's not posting content and sitting back, playing mind games...not trying to help the town. Beth's a possibility, and Charlie's quiet lurking bothers me. Mad's not in the clear, but he's being lowered slightly on the danger meter. Everyone's still being watched, but some a lot more then others.
 
Recorded Votes to 364

Bkw ( 2 ) - Ice(270), LC(364)
Beth ( 2 ) - Charlie(301), HN(304), Cory(305)
HN ( 1 ) - Bkw(307)
Ice ( 1 ) - RB(310)
Charlie ( 2 ) - Ogre(325), Cory(338)


No Votes from: Beth, Mad

Well it looks like we have a 3-way tie...Mad, Beth...care to weigh in?
 
I was thinking about this while laying in bed and figure I should post it before I it slips my mind.



LChap, what are your thoughts on Andi? If you're interested in saving Ice, it seems like your vote on Andi might help the cause more...

As it got closer to night fall Mad was asking LC why not vote Andi if you plan on saving Ice. Now I admit I didn't pay attention and see that Andi hadn't voted but did Mad also miss that fact or was he trying to get another vote on to someone that was going to UD and therefore not save me in the end?


ANd the vote switching begins.....

Are the mafia ensuring Emo is gone or trying to save Ice...? Is Emo the wayward mafia member?

Admitting to skimming...a good thing for a Townie, Ice. :)

Same with RB, he says that I must have been skimming if I missed that Andi hadn't voted. Well I didn't see RB screaming from the roof tops that are votes were being wasted on a UD.Numerous times before night fall he mentions that votes are being switched and is it to save me or sink Emo but never did he mention that Andi was going to UD.

Usually both of these players would mention the fact that people are sitting on a dead player.

HN says he noticed also and why he voted for RB first instead of Andi before switching to Emo. Well if he noticed then why didn't he warn me also that I was sitting on a nothing vote?

I'm not as sure about HN and LC because in the end their vote ended up saving me when they could have easily let me die.

But I think I am more sure now then I have ever been of RB and Mad.

Sounds to me more like Ice is the don and emo is trying to save him.

Ogre also as night fell made this comment but alas nothing from him either that Andi would have UD and that the votes on Andi would have been wasted.

Anyone who saw votes on Andi, didn't acknowledge to anyone they were wasted and used being moved off to claim saving someone is really scummy looking at this time.

The more I think about it the more I think Beth is innocent and our 4 Mafia players are

Ogre
Bk
Mad
RB

Now I'm going to try to get a couple of more hours of sleep but it probably won't happen as I smell coffee brewing.

I curse this game for making me wake up early on a weekend morning.
 
Recorded Votes to 364

Bkw ( 2 ) - Ice(270), LC(364)
Beth ( 2 ) - Charlie(301), HN(304), Cory(305)
HN ( 1 ) - Bkw(307)
Ice ( 1 ) - RB(310)
Charlie ( 2 ) - Ogre(325), Cory(338)


No Votes from: Beth, Mad

Well it looks like we have a 3-way tie...Mad, Beth...care to weigh in?

For the time being (and maybe longer) I vote to lynch Hooked Newbie.

There seems to be a little bit of rallying around HN that concerns me a little. That, and the fact that he got a little bent out of shape when questioned/accused has me thinking that he's probably scum.
 
I forgot all about Charlie.His posts haven't helped us at all and if anything deserve to get him voted on but for some reason we all keep just passing it by.

I have to rethink this a bit but I positive about Mad and RB as much as I can be without actually having a PM telling me to that effect.

Ogre and Bk not as much but I'm pretty sure 1 of them is mafia. Just which one?

I retract my vote on Bkw


I think I might switch to Charlie, nah I am voting to lynch Charlie until I figure out whats actually going on. If anything maybe it will get Charlie to talk with votes sitting on him.
 
I forgot all about Charlie.His posts haven't helped us at all and if anything deserve to get him voted on but for some reason we all keep just passing it by.

I have to rethink this a bit but I positive about Mad and RB as much as I can be without actually having a PM telling me to that effect.

Ogre and Bk not as much but I'm pretty sure 1 of them is mafia. Just which one?

I retract my vote on Bkw


I think I might switch to Charlie, nah I am voting to lynch Charlie until I figure out whats actually going on. If anything maybe it will get Charlie to talk with votes sitting on him.

I thought we might see a little bit of vote shuffling with the second vote on HN...
 
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