Mafia who done it! The Play

[IceH2O]

That's pretty funny Ice.... I notice that Ogre dropped off of your list of suspects completely... you doing that because you're afraid he might be tempted to jump to HN also?

As far as Beth, based on the quick votes by HN and Chas, I'm thinking that there might be a chance that she's indeed innocent. Why don't you try to scare her a little more see if you can get her to vote with you? I notice that you never mentioned HN sitting on her as suspicious...

Where do you see that?

I think either Bkw or Ogre are mafia but I don't think they both are. I stated that in post 369.

Why would I be suspicious of HN being on Beth? At the time of the vote and most of last night I was thinking of switching myself but then I had the thought I posted this morning.

 

[IceH2O]

Ice I know your innocent, I have tried to see why Mad might be mafia, but I am having trouble. Why do you think hes Mafia as opposed to others?

Posts 367 explains it pretty well Beth.

Also his post 314 he uses one of my quotes to Cory in post 308 about HN but in post 309 I give my thought on why I think HN isn't mafia. Mad declined to use that post and instead only used the one that made me look like I had suspicions of HN.

 

[IceH2O]

Nice try Mad but I was typing the post before I saw you vote for HN.

Care to share with the town why you don't think Charlies vote and run posts with no explanations at all doesn't seem scummy to you? Do you think he is hiding because he is an innocent PR? Wait there was only one and you guys hit him the 1st night so that can't be it.

Anymore thoughts on RB?

Would you like to add a bit on why you were pushing LC towards Andi when she was most likely going to UD?

Beth thanks for the more indepth analysis of everyone.

Would you like to answer these questions Mad or would you rather consult with your team before you commit to your answers?

 

[IceH2O]

As usual all the heavy hitters are going at it.
Ice-for Once I read you as completely innocent, yes you had your vote on Andi, and then switched it late in the game, but you are right had you left it there as Andi UD you would have been lynched for a "safe" vote. NOt only that but you have helped the twon since "game on"

CL- I had questioned you as Innocent or mafia, your catching Jpap's post with the shading didn't seem like mafia at all. Just quick to find Mafia as we all are. Then with the way it kept being brought up, I thought maybe you were mafia. But looking back at all your posts I can see that it was a earger mistake and I think you are innocent atm.

LC-you have changed your style, and are helpful, which would say to me innocent. HOwever with your all of a sudden "save Ice" I think it could be the work of MAfia. Yes Ice was in danger of being lynched, and should be saved. You have slid up the scale as mafia.

Mad-you are on the most complicated players to figure out, I have switched so many times on being mafia or innocent. You are on of the most vocal players, and I think you could easily hide as mafia that way. I have you leaning innocent atm, but I think you need watching.

Rb-you are a very quiet poster, not like Mad, and Ice who are very vocal. But usually you are more helpful, even with one liners you generaly post your thoughts, but not this time. I think its very possible that you could be mafia this time.I havein you leaning mafia atm.

Ogre-you have alot of helpful points, and some logical posts, you are the kind of player that could easily hide as mafia till the end. I have thought of you as innocent until now I think that you are Colonel and your trying to be helpful only to secretly gain the trust of the town only to hit the most innocent in the end. You I think are Mafia, and the Colonel.

Bk-Not one of the more vocal players but helpful, I don't see you as hiding or trying to sit on the sidelines and come in occasionally I think you are innocent.

Beth-I know myself

CS-I think with all your "helpful" posts, which there have been none of, and since this only the second game with you its hard for me to figure you out. With that said the last game I played with you, was a much more vocal Charlie. You were way more into the game last time, and you posted and ran. Do I think that you are Mafia, yes and that your team has decided to keep you quiet.

HN-I can see how everyone thinks your Mafia, some of your posts do look Mafia, but I really don't think you are. I think you might have jumped onto Emo, but so did others. I don't think you are mafia, you are the cause of controversy, but not Mafia. I have you as innocent atm.

My suspects are and in no particular order
Ogre
Rb
LC
and Charlie
I vote to lynch Ogre because I think you are the Colonel

Beth 1 quick question about your analysis. Why do you think Mafia (LC IYO) would want to save me if you think I'm innocent?

 

[bethkira2000]

I know your innocent Ice, But I think LC is mafia and its like someone else pointed out I think Mad, If he sees you the biggest innocent is in trouble, and befriends you then he is saved. Once you think he is innocent and you have his back then no one will suspect him. I have seen it done.

 

[bethkira2000]

Does that help at all? And thanks for answering my question.

 

[IceH2O]

I know your innocent Ice, But I think LC is mafia and its like someone else pointed out I think Mad, If he sees you the biggest innocent is in trouble, and befriends you then he is saved. Once you think he is innocent and you have his back then no one will suspect him. I have seen it done.

Yeah but why bother befriending me when I'm out the door and a player the mafia would want gone. Wouldn't it be a better bet to befriend an innocent thats not in trouble and play off them?

If you were mafia would you befriend me and keep me in the game and try to get rid of Emo? They had a chance to rid the game of 2 important players. Jpap and me, why would the mafia save me and try to get rid of Emo when Emo could have gotten himself lynched the next day anyway.

 

[bethkira2000]

not if they can get the protection of you, I mean there was no garuntee that you were going, and if you did, everyone would be like who was Ice after, who did he suspect, and who voted for him.

Emo was well Emo, as yeah he probably would have gotten lynched then next day, but it would have been a safe vote for LC,.

I mean think about it Ice, do you suspect LC at all?

 

[IceH2O]

not if they can get the protection of you, I mean there was no garuntee that you were going, and if you did, everyone would be like who was Ice after, who did he suspect, and who voted for him.

Emo was well Emo, as yeah he probably would have gotten lynched then next day, but it would have been a safe vote for LC,.

I mean think about it Ice, do you suspect LC at all?

1st of all I can't protect anyone lol. I can give my opinions but I can't force them on anyone.

If LC and HN didn't switch to Emo then it was a guarantee I was out the door. The only other person with as many votes was Andi and with Bkw jumping on me at the days end I had 5 and would have been gone. LC and HN could have easily jumped onto me and sent me on my way. If they jumped it would have been 7 on me and though I showed innocent they could have blended in witht he group because with 7 players on me and 4 mafia that means 3 innocents would have also been on me.

As for do I suspect LC at all. I can't say I can say anyone is 100% innocent and there will always be some doubt. The only thing that stands out is why he wanted to go to Emo over Andi at 1st. Though he never retracted off RB at that time so the Emo vote didn't really count.

 

[Madcrawdad]

Nice try Mad but I was typing the post before I saw you vote for HN.

Care to share with the town why you don't think Charlies vote and run posts with no explanations at all doesn't seem scummy to you? Do you think he is hiding because he is an innocent PR? Wait there was only one and you guys hit him the 1st night so that can't be it. Maybe you can look back at a post of mine from yesterday where I said that I thought Chas was scum, I also said that I thought that Beth might be innocent due to the fact that HN and Chas both dumped quick votes on her... let me know if you need further clarification...

Anymore thoughts on RB? RB likes you and HN for scum.... You know what? So do I. Therefore I'm thinking that RB may be on the up-and-up. I've only seen RB play scum once. We were teammates in the vamp game. RB had a very hard time playing scum (remember every post of his that game happened to be about the kidnapper role?). While it would be nice to see some of his thought processes spelled out, I'm not seeing him struggling like I did in the vamp game.

Would you like to add a bit on why you were pushing LC towards Andi when she was most likely going to UD? Simple. Didn't realize that Andi was going to UD. I generally don't pay attention to who hasn't voted, and vote count done several hours before nightfall didn't make it clear. Apparently it slipped by you, but that doesn't seem scummy to you.

With that being said, what's so bad about voting someone who appears to be about to UD if you think they're scum? Even though he was innocent last game, Emo proved that folks do pop in last minute to throw a vote and bail, just to stay alive. He got away with it for a couple of nights as I recall.

Interesting that you don't find it scummy that LChap went Emo (known innocent) instead of Andi (known mafia) even though it was still several hours before nightfall when he cast his vote.



Beth thanks for the more indepth analysis of everyone.

I figured these were rhetorical since you've already got your mind made up, but see answers above...

Wow you're really pushing hard, Ice. Getting nervous about votes on Hooked?