Mafia #26: Roadside Picnic the Game

[jpappy789]

If we assume the note was correct, there would only be five left....

Hehe, good point:grinyes:. Not used to getting a scumbag night one.

Well at this point I dont see having any reason to remove one from my list as most are clumped together as possible stalkers without a whole lot of proof or justification anyways...just people who stick out more than others atm

 

[Rbishop]

We'll expect to see you in the next game.


OK, there are a lot of very good comments out there. Unfortunately several are contradictory.

John's all voting for grace are innocent thing
Hooked's (et al) throwaway votes

Two people that I think are innocent are being counted as evil by each other and several others... some of whom I think are innocent and some of whom I think are stalkers.

This is getting thick.

Personally, I think bkw's arguments are the best right now. John's go a little too far. I wouldn't hold it past the stalker team to sac someone hoping to get that instant innocent feel. On the other hand, he could be right too.

Sorry guys, headache, long day, no food = no sense from Kev...

Are you willing to share these names with the town?

 

[IceH2O]

Yeah us!!!!

Do I have to be the one to point out that I was curious about Grace during
the Ogre train? Guess so. Why would I do that if Scum? Pretty bold for a distancing tactic, dontcha think?

My top scary-types are:

LadyG: No reason to hunt me, lovely lady. I've done nothing to you.

Ice: Again, not a good reason, other than I'm a good scapegoat.

Beth: Don't like your posts. They seem insincere and largely pulled from other's previously posted ideas.

RB: has dropped a bit, but I'm watching. He didn't really respond to being voted, and has "chilled out" his posts.

Praise Bala, I will survive to help heal AC of this horrible Alien threat to our safety.

~xoxo~

All that tells me is that Ogre could be a stalker and you'd rather lose Grace then Ogre.

night one was a good night. got a mafia and some none innocents

known innocents:

Plant-I would put plant as a known because she is the one that put the nail in the coffin for grace. I dont think a mafia would take the chance to lynch one of their own

Leaning innocent:
swayde-Mafia dont start trains.

Either way:
rb jl and cl: Could go either way with these guys



Im goin to be looking at the trow away votes

bkw-6

Went after rb than jumped on the ogre train, only to go back to rb later on the basis that RB "pointed out" the slip and never voted. My thoughts are that he was trying to get a train started on RB again...granted, RB may be evil, but this seemed odd to me. And the last post of his mentions two people that he thinks are innocent and 3 who could go either way...care to share who you actually think may be stalkers? Also curious is that he says he will be looking at the "throw away" votes, high-lighting the votes from Ice, G, and Jmax...but not his or Jensons on RB? Little things that seems weird to me...maybe signs of scum...

I noticed that also but also no mention of Enyas on Ogre.

The only problem I have with this is that a nice train was piling up on Cory as well and instead some voted Grace. But maybe Cory is stalker as well and felt that the would rather lose a newb day 1? Its a possibility.

If anyone who voted Grace is stalker I feel that it would have to be the earlier voters.

I don't have anyone on Grace as a suspect right now. Cory could be since he moved to bring the vote closer but I'd have done the same so I can't hold that against him.

Most of my suspects are sitting on Cory.

Anyone that wants to look at my late vote switch feel free. I explained why I did and LG even went further. I could have stayed on RB and it still would have been a "throw away" vote. I didn't feel comfortable voting for either train candidate.

I still haven't changed my mind on Jenson. Her last post which is the 1st quoted has her saying that she must be innocent because she brought up Grace when everyone was on Ogre. Well why wasn't she on Grace to make it the 6th vote and make sure she went home? Why risk the coin toss and a chance at losing an innocent?

 

[jpappy789]

"Slipped" as in typed before he thought and thus put erroneous information out there that was conjecture in his head, not a fact he could prove. It happens. I am not protecting him, just thinking out loud in the thread. I am really not certain that he is a stalker, but I am also not certain that he is not.

To me, rb is acting strangley. I don't now for sure though, as I don't recall playing with him, but his posting style is far different here than on the boards.



What happened to thinking rb was scum?

And what happened to drop Gracecat off the radar? Everyone was gunning for her, and now it's like she's disappeared. Her posting was a bit strange, and to skip twice seems silly on review of everything that was posted to correct her (this goes against my previous statement on the subject, I know).



I am willing to bet that all the Stalkers are on Ogre right now, whether or not he is. This train looks promising as an alibi, if one were to need it.


The only Civilian Scientist I am sure of is myself.

I don't know who I will vote for yet. I need to review a bit.

So Jensons...this qualifies as being "curious" of gracecat during the Ogre train? Seems pretty brief, almost trying to just blend in.

 

[jpappy789]

Shoot I forgot the first part of my post. Like what Ice had said I was wondering why Jensons thinks her being suspicious of Grace has any merit to the chance of her being an innocent. A lot where suspcious of her and some decided to vote, others didn't...does that make them automatically innocent?

Jensons seems desperate to prove her innocence.

 

[Rbishop]

All that tells me is that Ogre could be a stalker and you'd rather lose Grace then Ogre.





I noticed that also but also no mention of Enyas on Ogre.



I don't have anyone on Grace as a suspect right now. Cory could be since he moved to bring the vote closer but I'd have done the same so I can't hold that against him.

Most of my suspects are sitting on Cory.

Anyone that wants to look at my late vote switch feel free. I explained why I did and LG even went further. I could have stayed on RB and it still would have been a "throw away" vote. I didn't feel comfortable voting for either train candidate.

I still haven't changed my mind on Jenson. Her last post which is the 1st quoted has her saying that she must be innocent because she brought up Grace when everyone was on Ogre. Well why wasn't she on Grace to make it the 6th vote and make sure she went home? Why risk the coin toss and a chance at losing an innocent?

That is the biggest reason for me to have concerns over them. They are going out of their way to let us know they were curious, but couldn't place a vote there to ensure the fate. When you back out all of Jensons chit chat posts, there isn't a lot of input going on.

We have had several games recently where the communicating folks admitted afterwards that they did noy work well together....this game could be running the same scenario. The players on the teams that communicate can greatly affect their effectiveness.

It seems odd that the team of stalkers couldn't hold together thru the first night....almost as if they are limited by RL or desire to play fully.

 

[jpappy789]

well, must be a slow night. Anyways, I am comfortable with my vote and it may have to stay there as I probably wont be on later tonight unless Im lucky and tomorrow is VERY busy for me...Night!

 

[Rbishop]

What, do we not know...???

What are the win criteria, for either side...?

One citizen and one stalker got the ability for an investigation...does it have to be used before the next nightfall? Will it just reveal innocent/stalker or include operative or Doctor? Will someone's posting change to defend someone they were previously against?

What can the Doc protect from..lynch (toss)...hit....tech device....?


I do know I vote to toss Jensons into the zone...

 

[ZSandmann]

Sorry didn't mean to leave you hanging on the win criteria. It was in my original game start that I had left at work.

If the Citizens kill all the Stalkers, they win.
If the Stalkers manage to kill all the Military, they win.

 

[IceH2O]

Well I see 4 votes and 12 no votes.

Remember that tomorrow night is night fall and no votes will be accepted after 8 PM EST.

I was really hoping to see others chime in about the players they suspect.

Also some clarification from Ogre on this

Two people that I think are innocent are being counted as evil by each other and several others... some of whom I think are innocent and some of whom I think are stalkers.

and Bkw on why he left Jenson and Enya off his list of throw away votes and why are 2 votes on RB not throw away votes but 2 votes on Jensons is?