I still think Bk's walking a thin line, but I'm almost positive of JM's guilt... Just a note in case I end up gone.
Mafia #26: Roadside Picnic the Game
- Thread starter ZSandmann
- Start date
I still think Bk's walking a thin line, but I'm almost positive of JM's guilt... Just a note in case I end up gone.
I'd like to be able to trust Plantling as a known innocent but thats not possible at this moment.
Bkw gave his reasons why he thinks Plantling is innocent, I don't think Bkw is innocent, and this forces me to question Plantling.
If CL is a stalker and Plant is a stalker and she had to choose between the 2 she would keep Corys experience over Graces newbiness.
Also in your what coulda happened scenario if CL was lynched and found guilty why would the arguement be made that Plant was saving Grace? Can't the same arguement be made about Cory? We don't know his status. For you to say Plantling is a known innocent you'd also have to assume that Cory is also.But I haven't see you mention that.
I'd have to look back but I believe Plantling mentioned not knowing what the vote tally was at the time of her vote.
Here she says she had no idea how many votes Cory had at the time of her vote.
I'm not saying Plantling is a Stalker. I'm not getting that feeling from her but I can't see any reason to claim she is a known innocent unless Bkw knows that for a fact.
Bkw gave his reasons why he thinks Plantling is innocent, I don't think Bkw is innocent, and this forces me to question Plantling.
If CL is a stalker and Plant is a stalker and she had to choose between the 2 she would keep Corys experience over Graces newbiness.
Also in your what coulda happened scenario if CL was lynched and found guilty why would the arguement be made that Plant was saving Grace? Can't the same arguement be made about Cory? We don't know his status. For you to say Plantling is a known innocent you'd also have to assume that Cory is also.But I haven't see you mention that.
I'd have to look back but I believe Plantling mentioned not knowing what the vote tally was at the time of her vote.
Here she says she had no idea how many votes Cory had at the time of her vote.
I'm not saying Plantling is a Stalker. I'm not getting that feeling from her but I can't see any reason to claim she is a known innocent unless Bkw knows that for a fact.
Ice are you skimming again? please show me where i said "Also in your what coulda happened scenario if CL was lynched and found guilty why would the arguement be made that Plant was saving Grace?"
I believe the correct quote was "There was a tie between Cl and Grace, and if it ended with CL being lynched and being guilty an arguement could have been made that you tried to save CL by voting grace"
FireDancer7905
I'm in love!
**Grampa had heart surgery to re-position a shunt that was put in last year. They had changed his meds, and his heart was working too hard and things got icky. He is in recovery and is doing well. Thank you so much for all your thoughts and prayers. He's not out of the woods yet, but all is going well.**
I am going to try and respond to some things while we wait for Z's nightfall. If I didn't respond to something, I will try to if you direct me to the post # or quote it for me.
Lady G:
This, LG is where a PM was mentioned in regards to me.
And yes, I was asking the Doc for protection, though at this point it would be better placed on Swayde, who is the most innocent looking of all right now.
I did not have time to make a case. I was tired and in a hurry. RL can be a witch, and I have had more fall onto my plate this week than I could possibly explain here, including a Child Protecive Services call and then my Grampa. Anyone who twists that to make a player look bad (G and Swayde included here) is suspicious imo because I was attempting to keep myself in the game and help keep the townie- stalker ratio in favor of the town. I may have overreacted to being acused of "scummy play" (sorry 'bout that Swayde
) but I was doing what I thought was in the best interest of the town.
On to Ice:
I voted Ice partly as an OMGUS, and partly for valid reasons. By gunning for me he is trying to rid the town of another townie. This is bad. I also ahd concerns about his sudden change towards me. I went from "oh, jensons is playing" to "Jensons is posting evil words and is a Stalker." I found this strange. I voted for him, avoiding an UD. I couldn't very well vote for myself (I assume the "stong lead" that Swayde mentions above), as that is against the rules. Not the best reason, but there it is.
And this, after Swayde has outd LadyG, is odd....
K, well, I don't see me being a stalker, but I HAVE played enough not to wave the "Innocent" sign wihtout a really good reason early on. Doing it this early, and not truly being innocent, is silly. Hope I'm not that far gone....
I believe you and changed my vote, but I really, really hope that I am right to do so....... You were pretty certain about me...
Z: I do wish that we had had a full rules posting at the beginning to know when the Alien Tech would be used (investigations related to it, deaths related etc) this is the second time that it has not fallen at night, as per the normal mafia games..... it is worrisome.....
Thank you.....sorry if I came off rude or even mean......really sorry....
RB has better reasoning than I could come up with for Ice/LG is posts on pg 45.....
Why? If LadyG is Stalker, then why would I be?
Ogre: I am worried that you flipped on me....I am now inclined to thinking you are possibly a Stalker.....sorry....
OK, none of my comments are valuable if you truly do not trust me. This game would be too easy if we could all be trusted, but I have posted everything that goes through my head, and it may have not come out as I would have liked.
~brandy
I am going to try and respond to some things while we wait for Z's nightfall. If I didn't respond to something, I will try to if you direct me to the post # or quote it for me.
Lady G:
This, LG is where a PM was mentioned in regards to me.
And yes, I was asking the Doc for protection, though at this point it would be better placed on Swayde, who is the most innocent looking of all right now.
I did not have time to make a case. I was tired and in a hurry. RL can be a witch, and I have had more fall onto my plate this week than I could possibly explain here, including a Child Protecive Services call and then my Grampa. Anyone who twists that to make a player look bad (G and Swayde included here) is suspicious imo because I was attempting to keep myself in the game and help keep the townie- stalker ratio in favor of the town. I may have overreacted to being acused of "scummy play" (sorry 'bout that Swayde
) but I was doing what I thought was in the best interest of the town. On to Ice:
I voted Ice partly as an OMGUS, and partly for valid reasons. By gunning for me he is trying to rid the town of another townie. This is bad. I also ahd concerns about his sudden change towards me. I went from "oh, jensons is playing" to "Jensons is posting evil words and is a Stalker." I found this strange. I voted for him, avoiding an UD. I couldn't very well vote for myself (I assume the "stong lead" that Swayde mentions above), as that is against the rules. Not the best reason, but there it is.
And this, after Swayde has outd LadyG, is odd....
K, well, I don't see me being a stalker, but I HAVE played enough not to wave the "Innocent" sign wihtout a really good reason early on. Doing it this early, and not truly being innocent, is silly. Hope I'm not that far gone....
I believe you and changed my vote, but I really, really hope that I am right to do so....... You were pretty certain about me...
Z: I do wish that we had had a full rules posting at the beginning to know when the Alien Tech would be used (investigations related to it, deaths related etc) this is the second time that it has not fallen at night, as per the normal mafia games..... it is worrisome.....
Thank you.....sorry if I came off rude or even mean......really sorry....
RB has better reasoning than I could come up with for Ice/LG is posts on pg 45.....
Why? If LadyG is Stalker, then why would I be?
Ogre: I am worried that you flipped on me....I am now inclined to thinking you are possibly a Stalker.....sorry....
OK, none of my comments are valuable if you truly do not trust me. This game would be too easy if we could all be trusted, but I have posted everything that goes through my head, and it may have not come out as I would have liked.
~brandy
Thats kinda what I am thinking...everyone is making observations in this type of game so how are we supposed to know what you are talking about Jmax?
Its almost like a "well I saw something, but I cant tell you now so keep me around until the right time comes" sort of thing...and I dont like it
**Grampa had heart surgery to re-position a shunt that was put in last year. They had changed his meds, and his heart was working too hard and things got icky. He is in recovery and is doing well. Thank you so much for all your thoughts and prayers. He's not out of the woods yet, but all is going well.**
I am going to try and respond to some things while we wait for Z's nightfall. If I didn't respond to something, I will try to if you direct me to the post # or quote it for me.
Lady G:
This, LG is where a PM was mentioned in regards to me.
And yes, I was asking the Doc for protection, though at this point it would be better placed on Swayde, who is the most innocent looking of all right now.
I did not have time to make a case. I was tired and in a hurry. RL can be a witch, and I have had more fall onto my plate this week than I could possibly explain here, including a Child Protecive Services call and then my Grampa. Anyone who twists that to make a player look bad (G and Swayde included here) is suspicious imo because I was attempting to keep myself in the game and help keep the townie- stalker ratio in favor of the town. I may have overreacted to being acused of "scummy play" (sorry 'bout that Swayde
On to Ice:
I voted Ice partly as an OMGUS, and partly for valid reasons. By gunning for me he is trying to rid the town of another townie. This is bad. I also ahd concerns about his sudden change towards me. I went from "oh, jensons is playing" to "Jensons is posting evil words and is a Stalker." I found this strange. I voted for him, avoiding an UD. I couldn't very well vote for myself (I assume the "stong lead" that Swayde mentions above), as that is against the rules. Not the best reason, but there it is.
And this, after Swayde has outd LadyG, is odd....
K, well, I don't see me being a stalker, but I HAVE played enough not to wave the "Innocent" sign wihtout a really good reason early on. Doing it this early, and not truly being innocent, is silly. Hope I'm not that far gone....
I believe you and changed my vote, but I really, really hope that I am right to do so....... You were pretty certain about me...
Z: I do wish that we had had a full rules posting at the beginning to know when the Alien Tech would be used (investigations related to it, deaths related etc) this is the second time that it has not fallen at night, as per the normal mafia games..... it is worrisome.....
Thank you.....sorry if I came off rude or even mean......really sorry....
RB has better reasoning than I could come up with for Ice/LG is posts on pg 45.....
Why? If LadyG is Stalker, then why would I be?
Ogre: I am worried that you flipped on me....I am now inclined to thinking you are possibly a Stalker.....sorry....
OK, none of my comments are valuable if you truly do not trust me. This game would be too easy if we could all be trusted, but I have posted everything that goes through my head, and it may have not come out as I would have liked.
~brandy
Jensons, I never said that if Lady G turns out stalker that you are. In fact I am thinking the opposite...thats why it has been hard for me to think that, because I was nealry sold on you being scum.
The thing that has really been bothering me about you play this game is that as when anyone goes after you, you believe they are a stalker: First Ice, and now Ogre. I mean, do you honestly think we can trust you? This ties back to the comment of mine about you acting like a known innocent. We cannot truly (100%)trust anyone at this point, even Swayde (nights results arent in)...I have never seen this type of play from you, or really anyone else before. Thats why it is troubling to me...
FireDancer7905
I'm in love!
Thanks for the clarification there. I have been reading and my brain is a bit fried.
I think that this is the way I always play.....hte only time I didn't was when DD was coaching me as a baddy.....and then it was SOOOO hard not to respond to the accusations. lol, I think that maybe i am too soft to play this game well.....I have always been accused of being too argumentative about being innocent. I guess it is just the way I think: if I know I am innocent, then everyone who thinks otherwise is evil. I know that it is flawed logic, but I can't seem to help myself!
At this point, I am willing to bet that at least a few of the 5 Stalkers left jumped on the Jensons train, but I can't prove it, so it may not be worth mentioning at all.
If I changed my play at this point, it would make me even more suspect. I will try to be more clear about my thoughts on people, even if the thinking appears to be weak....
When is Z coming back? I'm impatient!!!!!
