Mafia #29 Biological Badlands #2

[johnlarson66]

Look again Sherlock :silly:

Using EST times
1:16 Cat mis-worded vote to test me
5:44 I mentioned it to him
7:27 Cat fixed the vote to test me

I will ignore the "Sherlock" thing.

I missed your 5:44 post. I was posting at the same time and did not notice your post.

 

[catfish69hunter]

I just can't shake the feeling that Ogre and Zig are evil.

I don't see in Zigs posts anything more then trying to save himself from a bad decision. I don't see why he didn't vote JM to save himself and sat on Z instead all by himself.

Ogres post on catfish was a bunch of nothing. He wrote all that and the only conclusion I can come to is that he thinks Cat is either innocent or evil.I can't fault him for forgetting someone was hit as I just did that in one of the last games.

well i i just cant shake the feeling that the repetative action of trying to say you think the same 2 are evil makes it seem like you are trying to point to who you want rid of. Are you trying to get people to slowly look at these too to have them look at you less? i mean i think zig got railroaded myself. and what better way to keep the heat than to keep having a gut feeling. and as for ogre it has been a hit and run style on day one so that had me thinking evil. but with the posts today ogre seems more and more like he is trying to sort out who is bad and that makes me think less and less like he is evil. but with what you keep doing i think your more and more evil being lead along!!!

 

[Grins]

Terrified is what I'm going with too. I do like the idea of ruling out who most likely is not teamed up, but we need to get one before any of that type of info can be used. It is definitely something to be looked at though. God help me, but I see it as a useful post. Retreating to paranoia now...

Get out of my "Oh crap, who am I agreeing with" corner.

well what was the problem the first time. that i didnt say geneticlly??

Yes, the game mods are picky about that kind of thing and I've seen votes come close to not counting before because of it.

Historically speaking, there probably wasn't more than two evils, maybe only one on JMax. I know when I played as the bad guy, we really tried to split the first round votes up as much as possible.

Generally true but I've certainly seen a first night craziness with the vote before and know what? I was on a mafia team then and we had to do it to save one of our own...me, because I sucked in that game so bad some actually accused me of purposely throwing it to not be thought of as a strong player in future games..lol

I like this idea, but are you assuming that none of the arguments are started by and against a teammate? If so, then throw that out. Plenty of times teammates have fought, especially to not be associated.

Oh heck no, because I agree mafia often questions one another a bit to distance one another. I'm factoring in intensity of those verbal spars.

I missed your 5:44 post. I was posting at the same time and did not notice your post.

Unlike others I don't find what some call skimming to be a mafia tell so no biggie to me as long as we're on the same page now.

. but with the posts today ogre seems more and more like he is trying to sort out who is bad and that makes me think less and less like he is evil.

I'd think he would seem mafia to you since he quotes other's text in his posts and appears helpful. :lipssealedsmilie:

 

[IceH2O]

How so? I'm just curious, that last bit seems to have come out of nowhere.

Also, how does John stand out. I admit, I started with him, but it was mainly the morse thing. He hasn't really done anything to set off the twisted gene meter since then. Of course, neither has plantling, but she's so quiet and subtle, you can never tell with her.

You went from leaning me innocent in post 138 to an evil in post 141.
Zig then came out in post 162 also complaining about the code and by post 167 laid out the exact same list as you did of possible evils.


Jl is seriously either misreading posts or trying to throw doubt on people hoping that others don't go back and read the actual posts and context.He was the 1st one to try and spin that Zig is most likely innocent after the hit and since has had Zigs back so to speak.

 

[catfish69hunter]

I'd think he would seem mafia to you since he quotes other's text in his posts and appears helpful. :lipssealedsmilie:

yea and it seems to be working for me because i think that the ones trying to offer the most help are the ones trying to cover their ace the most or does that seem a strange logic to you because to me that seems like something i would to if was working for the evil side. OOO WAIT BY WHAT SOME PEOPLE THINK I AM! so i guess i should start being helpful that will clear my name right??

 

[johnlarson66]

And You're right, I didn't list JL, I thought I did. I'd say he isn't on a team with Cory, Cat or Jpap. And no Hook, he isn't on with me either.

I am curious about who I could be on a team with. I really can't think of anyone I might be on a team with.

 

[johnlarson66]

You went from leaning me innocent in post 138 to an evil in post 141.
Zig then came out in post 162 also complaining about the code and by post 167 laid out the exact same list as you did of possible evils.


Jl is seriously either misreading posts or trying to throw doubt on people hoping that others don't go back and read the actual posts and context.He was the 1st one to try and spin that Zig is most likely innocent after the hit and since has had Zigs back so to speak.

Ice, I would love to see how I have had Zigs back. You are the one that retracted your vote on him.

I am not even sure what you are even talking about as far as me trying to throw doubt on people.

I vote to geneticlly test Ice

The more he posts, the more he moves up.

 

[IceH2O]

well i i just cant shake the feeling that the repetative action of trying to say you think the same 2 are evil makes it seem like you are trying to point to who you want rid of. Are you trying to get people to slowly look at these too to have them look at you less? i mean i think zig got railroaded myself. and what better way to keep the heat than to keep having a gut feeling. and as for ogre it has been a hit and run style on day one so that had me thinking evil. but with the posts today ogre seems more and more like he is trying to sort out who is bad and that makes me think less and less like he is evil. but with what you keep doing i think your more and more evil being lead along!!!

Am I supposed to pick 2 different players each day cycle? If I thought someone was evil yesterday and still think they are today am I supposed to just throw that out the window?

You're the player I had leaning innocent, I still do. There is no way in hell you are being coached or helped along in this game. You are to all over the place. A noob is usually told to grab onto 1 player and ride them into the dirt or follow an experienced player and help them ride the innocent into the dirt.

 

[johnlarson66]

Am I supposed to pick 2 different players each day cycle? If I thought someone was evil yesterday and still think they are today am I supposed to just throw that out the window?

You're the player I had leaning innocent, I still do. There is no way in hell you are being coached or helped along in this game. You are to all over the place. A noob is usually told to grab onto 1 player and ride them into the dirt or follow an experienced player and help them ride the innocent into the dirt.

Or he is being coached by Zigman. (j/k)

Someone has (had) them both as part of a team. I will find that post.

 

[IceH2O]

First off, I am sorry to see that judgemax was innocent. I do not think she was contributing to the town very much. I thought we had one there.

I go back and forth about zigman, but it makes me uncomfortable that he had voted Zsandmann and then the evils tested him. Seems like a setup.

There are a few things I would like to review, but at this point I do not want to vote for Zigman. I also have Grins and Catfish leaning innocent.

I doubt that. If anything it makes Zig look less guilty.

If I was evil, I would want ZSandmann gone, unless he was looking real evil to everyone. I would keep Ice, HN and myself around and most likely Ogre, they all make good suspects. Assuming of course none of them are evil.

If I was evil, I think of the players left, I would want plantling gone.

I would want to also keep zig and catfish around for entertainment and general kaos.

This post by CL has him moving up a few notches.

Ice, Ogre was saying Bull Cookies in response to you! Then, if I am reading it correctly, your second paragraph is contradicts of your first paragraph.

Also you state the evils were on JM, but choose to test Zigman, who was on ZSandmann. I stand behind my vote for JM, she seemed evil and was not helping the town. At the time she seemed like the best choice. I do see Ogre's point, but think Ogre's points against Ice can be made against me also.

While I am more and more curious about Zigman, his statements that he is innocent are a little concerning. I think he is an easy target for a train.

Ice has moved up on my list.

Zigman, here is where people think you were responding for Catfish. If people would read the post, it will show where plant responded to catfish, but included you in the response. I think you had every right to jump in and ask when you were hiding. I don't think you were responding for catfish, but defending the statement that if you are innocent you don't have to hide.

I bolded what looks like getting his back.

The last quote here you give a reason for him to have answered all the posts he is being pointed at for being defensive for.

As for the misleading, I saw the post where you claim that you missed the 5:44 post and I can understand that you didn't get your thoughts to me written the way you wanted. So I'll give a pass on the misleading.

I see you voted for me. What about my answer on your question about Zig didn't you like?